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<blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 573158" data-attributes="member: 1264"><p>Hmm... As someone who grew up in Belgium and has been living in the US for the past 11 years, I always found americans to be MORE mobile than europeans, not less.</p><p></p><p>Sure, europeans travel to other countries quite frequently. Probably not much more than americans visit other states though. And the typical american moves about every 5-7 years or so (and often to a different state), up until recently Europeans very rarely moved out of their home country.</p><p></p><p>A little anecdote: a few years back, I looked up my family name in the Mormons' big online genealogical database. Sure enough, I found a number of entries, dating back to, oh, early 1800's or so. The next time I went back home I showed those to my dad. His response? "Oh, those are from an <em>entirely</em> different branch of the family. See? They're all centered around this village which is about 50 km (30miles?) from where I grew up." I.e. our branch of the family only moved about 50 km in 200 years! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>And yes, I do *sorta* miss the pervasive sense of history here in the states. I grew up in a tiny village in Flanders, knowing that I could go out anywhere into the countryside, and if I dug a deep enough hole in the ground I'd probably find <em>some</em> traces of civilization, dating back at least a couple of centuries. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, this also means there's very little unspoiled nature left in some parts of Europe. If you fly over Flanders, you'll see most of the countryside is divided into small (to US standards) irregularly shaped parcels of farmland. Most of which probably follow boundaries, paths etc going back hundreds of years. You may be jealous of our history, we're jealous of your national and state parks! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Conaill, post: 573158, member: 1264"] Hmm... As someone who grew up in Belgium and has been living in the US for the past 11 years, I always found americans to be MORE mobile than europeans, not less. Sure, europeans travel to other countries quite frequently. Probably not much more than americans visit other states though. And the typical american moves about every 5-7 years or so (and often to a different state), up until recently Europeans very rarely moved out of their home country. A little anecdote: a few years back, I looked up my family name in the Mormons' big online genealogical database. Sure enough, I found a number of entries, dating back to, oh, early 1800's or so. The next time I went back home I showed those to my dad. His response? "Oh, those are from an [i]entirely[/i] different branch of the family. See? They're all centered around this village which is about 50 km (30miles?) from where I grew up." I.e. our branch of the family only moved about 50 km in 200 years! :D And yes, I do *sorta* miss the pervasive sense of history here in the states. I grew up in a tiny village in Flanders, knowing that I could go out anywhere into the countryside, and if I dug a deep enough hole in the ground I'd probably find [i]some[/i] traces of civilization, dating back at least a couple of centuries. On the other hand, this also means there's very little unspoiled nature left in some parts of Europe. If you fly over Flanders, you'll see most of the countryside is divided into small (to US standards) irregularly shaped parcels of farmland. Most of which probably follow boundaries, paths etc going back hundreds of years. You may be jealous of our history, we're jealous of your national and state parks! :) [/QUOTE]
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