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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2960589" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I do not follow your logic. If it undoes the magic, it would undo it for everyone there. Since it only undoes the magic for the creature with it up, it must be a form of divinational magical sight, specific to that creature.</p><p></p><p>True Seeing is a divination that shows exact locations of creatures in the area.</p><p></p><p>Nondetection prevents divinations from working against a given target (if the roll is failed).</p><p></p><p>This seems pretty straight forward.</p><p></p><p>The argument has always boiled down to which type of divination magic is stopped by Nondetection and Mind Blank, but the spells themselves do not limit it. It is always an interpretation of the spells which says "this spell works this way". In the case of Nondetection, the "such as" clause is used as an all inclusive clause as opposed to what the phrase "such as" really means: examples. In the case of Mind Blank, the phrase "information gathering by divination spells or effects" is often limited to mental information, even though the spell does not state that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2960589, member: 2011"] I do not follow your logic. If it undoes the magic, it would undo it for everyone there. Since it only undoes the magic for the creature with it up, it must be a form of divinational magical sight, specific to that creature. True Seeing is a divination that shows exact locations of creatures in the area. Nondetection prevents divinations from working against a given target (if the roll is failed). This seems pretty straight forward. The argument has always boiled down to which type of divination magic is stopped by Nondetection and Mind Blank, but the spells themselves do not limit it. It is always an interpretation of the spells which says "this spell works this way". In the case of Nondetection, the "such as" clause is used as an all inclusive clause as opposed to what the phrase "such as" really means: examples. In the case of Mind Blank, the phrase "information gathering by divination spells or effects" is often limited to mental information, even though the spell does not state that. [/QUOTE]
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