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<blockquote data-quote="RealAlHazred" data-source="post: 6748525" data-attributes="member: 25818"><p><strong>Originally posted by Hellcow:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think Skritz is asking about locations, Bly. It seems like simple curiousity as to how many of the thirty have been identified. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tiamat was established in both <em>Dragons of Eberron</em> and in the 4E ECG. I personally am not familiar with Orcus being established in canon as an Overlord - is that from the Eberron conversion notes for the modules? In the 4E ECG, what's said is:</p><p></p><p><em>Like Tiamat, demon princes or evil gods from other settings can be used as fiendish overlords in the EBERRON setting. Yeenoghu, also known as the Beast of Butchery, could have created the gnolls as soldiers in the ancient war, and the most savage gnolls still revere this demon lord. Lolth lingers in the depths of Khyber, spinning webs to ensnare the souls of the elves and the eladrin. When using evil gods in this way, remember that they are not gods in the same sense as the Sovereign Host.</em></p><p></p><p>This doesn't establish Yeenoghu or Lolth as part of canon; it simply suggests that they or any others of their level <em>could</em> be Overlords if you want to use them in that way. In my <em>Savage Tide</em> conversion, I suggested that Demogorgon was essentialy a demi-Overlord - more powerful by far than a rakshasa, but not as powerful as an overlord, and as such also not completely bound, instead ruling a demiplane in Khyber.</p><p></p><p>Looking a few more in canon, you have The Scar That Abides (City of Stormreach) and Bel Shalor (4E ECG).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RealAlHazred, post: 6748525, member: 25818"] [b]Originally posted by Hellcow:[/b] I don't think Skritz is asking about locations, Bly. It seems like simple curiousity as to how many of the thirty have been identified. Tiamat was established in both [i]Dragons of Eberron[/i] and in the 4E ECG. I personally am not familiar with Orcus being established in canon as an Overlord - is that from the Eberron conversion notes for the modules? In the 4E ECG, what's said is: [i]Like Tiamat, demon princes or evil gods from other settings can be used as fiendish overlords in the EBERRON setting. Yeenoghu, also known as the Beast of Butchery, could have created the gnolls as soldiers in the ancient war, and the most savage gnolls still revere this demon lord. Lolth lingers in the depths of Khyber, spinning webs to ensnare the souls of the elves and the eladrin. When using evil gods in this way, remember that they are not gods in the same sense as the Sovereign Host.[/i] This doesn't establish Yeenoghu or Lolth as part of canon; it simply suggests that they or any others of their level [i]could[/i] be Overlords if you want to use them in that way. In my [i]Savage Tide[/i] conversion, I suggested that Demogorgon was essentialy a demi-Overlord - more powerful by far than a rakshasa, but not as powerful as an overlord, and as such also not completely bound, instead ruling a demiplane in Khyber. Looking a few more in canon, you have The Scar That Abides (City of Stormreach) and Bel Shalor (4E ECG). [/QUOTE]
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