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<blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9086122" data-attributes="member: 90374"><p>I think you are discounting other options as if PF2 is the only way to do it. Like any accurate CR is going to produce these exact results. </p><p></p><p>Na, the math eventually makes it so that you are darting in and out praying to hit as a melee, and wizards are using their cantrips as a mere annoyance. The PCs become the paper tigers now and that is not the feel I prefer. I would rather be using cantrips and standard attacks on low level fights and save the big bangs for big fights. So, again, its a subjective taste thing. Mechanically, PF2 does solos better than any edition I can think of. So, I do praise it for that. I just don't prefer it. </p><p></p><p>For us it was like being down to 10-20 out of 120 HP and retreat really isn't an option. At that much damage neither is going forward and hoping to survive a battle. This is hardly unique to PF2 though I still remember the cure wands spammage. Also, 5E has a lot of variance at tables on just how long s short rest really is. Ideally, you'd just do something like 3 short rests a day at 1st level more at higher levels, that fully recovers you if you can spend 5 min (out of encounter). Starfinder is in a unique position where you can just have some science magic way of waving away the GM may I mini game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="payn, post: 9086122, member: 90374"] I think you are discounting other options as if PF2 is the only way to do it. Like any accurate CR is going to produce these exact results. Na, the math eventually makes it so that you are darting in and out praying to hit as a melee, and wizards are using their cantrips as a mere annoyance. The PCs become the paper tigers now and that is not the feel I prefer. I would rather be using cantrips and standard attacks on low level fights and save the big bangs for big fights. So, again, its a subjective taste thing. Mechanically, PF2 does solos better than any edition I can think of. So, I do praise it for that. I just don't prefer it. For us it was like being down to 10-20 out of 120 HP and retreat really isn't an option. At that much damage neither is going forward and hoping to survive a battle. This is hardly unique to PF2 though I still remember the cure wands spammage. Also, 5E has a lot of variance at tables on just how long s short rest really is. Ideally, you'd just do something like 3 short rests a day at 1st level more at higher levels, that fully recovers you if you can spend 5 min (out of encounter). Starfinder is in a unique position where you can just have some science magic way of waving away the GM may I mini game. [/QUOTE]
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