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<blockquote data-quote="Terramotus" data-source="post: 5616084" data-attributes="member: 7220"><p>A few reasons.</p><p></p><p>1) The infringement, on a quick glance, seems pretty inconsequential. At least as described. I can't see it anymore because it's been locked away.</p><p></p><p>2) This may not be entirely Paizo's fault, but they've been praised as paragons of open gaming by many. If you support open gaming / open source initiatives, it goes with that same belief system that you oppose the indiscriminate use of copyright against your customer base. Use it against competitors stealing your materials, maybe even use it against large scale piracy, but don't harass your customers.</p><p></p><p>Now, Paizo doesn't HAVE to hold that kind of belief system. They could be, for example, Cisco just slapping Linux on their routers because it's cheap and it works - a simple business decision. That's fine, but I'm not going to praise Cisco for doing so. By the same token, it's fine for Paizo to take what's available in the form of the OGL and use it for their own ends while doing what's necessary to comply by the license while using existing IP laws to continue to leverage their position. That's fine, but they shouldn't be praised for it.</p><p></p><p>So perhaps I should retract my statement before. I was under the impression that Paizo was an advocate of the philosophy of open gaming. If they intend to be, I think this action is inconsistent with that philosophy. If that wasn't the intent, then I apologize - I assumed.</p><p></p><p>But if they're just using what's available to make what money they can while working at a hobby they enjoy, and want to operate the way most other companies in the world operate - great. But you don't get any extra "street cred" for the use of the OGL.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand your position, and I came off too strong in my original post and didn't elaborate enough. That said, I don't think you've done yourself any favors with this policy, and perhaps it needs to changing. In today's market, good will from your customer base is quite possibly the most valuable asset you've got. Sure. you're strictly in the right in this case, and I'm sure your board or your shareholders or whatever Paizo's got will praise this decision. But IMO that doesn't really help. You can be special, or you can be like every other company out there. Nobody's going to lose their job over being like anyone else, but your company also won't stand out.</p><p></p><p>The real question is: Was there honest-to-god piracy here? If not, I think the call of a company that favors the "open" philosophy would have been to let it alone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Terramotus, post: 5616084, member: 7220"] A few reasons. 1) The infringement, on a quick glance, seems pretty inconsequential. At least as described. I can't see it anymore because it's been locked away. 2) This may not be entirely Paizo's fault, but they've been praised as paragons of open gaming by many. If you support open gaming / open source initiatives, it goes with that same belief system that you oppose the indiscriminate use of copyright against your customer base. Use it against competitors stealing your materials, maybe even use it against large scale piracy, but don't harass your customers. Now, Paizo doesn't HAVE to hold that kind of belief system. They could be, for example, Cisco just slapping Linux on their routers because it's cheap and it works - a simple business decision. That's fine, but I'm not going to praise Cisco for doing so. By the same token, it's fine for Paizo to take what's available in the form of the OGL and use it for their own ends while doing what's necessary to comply by the license while using existing IP laws to continue to leverage their position. That's fine, but they shouldn't be praised for it. So perhaps I should retract my statement before. I was under the impression that Paizo was an advocate of the philosophy of open gaming. If they intend to be, I think this action is inconsistent with that philosophy. If that wasn't the intent, then I apologize - I assumed. But if they're just using what's available to make what money they can while working at a hobby they enjoy, and want to operate the way most other companies in the world operate - great. But you don't get any extra "street cred" for the use of the OGL. I understand your position, and I came off too strong in my original post and didn't elaborate enough. That said, I don't think you've done yourself any favors with this policy, and perhaps it needs to changing. In today's market, good will from your customer base is quite possibly the most valuable asset you've got. Sure. you're strictly in the right in this case, and I'm sure your board or your shareholders or whatever Paizo's got will praise this decision. But IMO that doesn't really help. You can be special, or you can be like every other company out there. Nobody's going to lose their job over being like anyone else, but your company also won't stand out. The real question is: Was there honest-to-god piracy here? If not, I think the call of a company that favors the "open" philosophy would have been to let it alone. [/QUOTE]
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