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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6686390" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>Is the deal still valid?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>She may have tried to prevent it, but the town was sacked. Sounds like she did not succeed in delivering on her end of the deal.</p><p></p><p>I’m not clear what “past crimes” are referred to in the first post. Killing her for something she might do in future seems less defensible than executing her for actual crimes committed.</p><p></p><p>“she's a CE/NE half-ogre wizardess” with evil and destructive plans. She`s also threatened innocent people, apparently, being the Paladin`s family. So what should the Paladin do, let her go? Practically, PC’s are often faced with helpless foes – bleeding out on the ground between 0 hp and death, for example. Should the Paladin be stabilizing them and nursing them back to health? </p><p></p><p>“She's one of those villains that I favor who uses the actual truth as a weapon and told them flat-out this was the case.” So? That does not give the characters reason to trust her. They have to rely on what they have experienced. Does she have an in-game reputation for being truthful and honourable?</p><p></p><p>You also mention skeletons and zombies she can call into action – yet she did not do so to prevent the ogres tying her to a stake? Out of curiosity, what would have happened if they had untied her? That can’t impact the PC’s decisions as they could not have known what she would do, of course. But I find a lot of cases where GM’s complain their players are ruthless and merciless, when the result of mercy and kindness in-game is pretty much universally betrayal. I can’t say what these players experience in this game is, though.</p><p></p><p>I`m not seeing anything that would change my initial viewpoint that this isn`t an act that has much impact on his Paladinhood. I also hate the "gothca" mentality that sometimes applies to Paladins. So I`ll come back to my question above for anyone who thinks the Paladin should be punished. What was the right answer – the action he should have taken in this situation? In my view, if a clear right answer cannot be identified, the action taken should be accepted as "not wrong".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6686390, member: 6681948"] Is the deal still valid? She may have tried to prevent it, but the town was sacked. Sounds like she did not succeed in delivering on her end of the deal. I’m not clear what “past crimes” are referred to in the first post. Killing her for something she might do in future seems less defensible than executing her for actual crimes committed. “she's a CE/NE half-ogre wizardess” with evil and destructive plans. She`s also threatened innocent people, apparently, being the Paladin`s family. So what should the Paladin do, let her go? Practically, PC’s are often faced with helpless foes – bleeding out on the ground between 0 hp and death, for example. Should the Paladin be stabilizing them and nursing them back to health? “She's one of those villains that I favor who uses the actual truth as a weapon and told them flat-out this was the case.” So? That does not give the characters reason to trust her. They have to rely on what they have experienced. Does she have an in-game reputation for being truthful and honourable? You also mention skeletons and zombies she can call into action – yet she did not do so to prevent the ogres tying her to a stake? Out of curiosity, what would have happened if they had untied her? That can’t impact the PC’s decisions as they could not have known what she would do, of course. But I find a lot of cases where GM’s complain their players are ruthless and merciless, when the result of mercy and kindness in-game is pretty much universally betrayal. I can’t say what these players experience in this game is, though. I`m not seeing anything that would change my initial viewpoint that this isn`t an act that has much impact on his Paladinhood. I also hate the "gothca" mentality that sometimes applies to Paladins. So I`ll come back to my question above for anyone who thinks the Paladin should be punished. What was the right answer – the action he should have taken in this situation? In my view, if a clear right answer cannot be identified, the action taken should be accepted as "not wrong". [/QUOTE]
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