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[Paladin mount questions] But the Lone Ranger never killed off Silver...
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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 808265" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>Keep in mind that you're adding the CR of the mount as a part of what's gained from the Leadership feat, which I'm not sure is fair. If the paladin simply acquired a celestial warhorse and a 5th-level fighter cohort, combining their CRs would also break the Leadership limit, but is perfectly legal and non-abusive. So do you consider the ability to combine two creatures (CR3 and CR5) into one CR8 creature abusive? In some ways, this is advantageous (the CR8 creature will be harder to kill). In other ways, this is detrimental (if it dies, you're out the whole CR8, and it can be killed with a single spell/attack, instead of two. And it only gets one action per round, instead of two.)</p><p></p><p>Still, you may be correct. If so, though, how would you handle it? Dragon cohorts set a precedent for combining a mount and cohort. How would you impliment this, for a paladin who doesn't want to wait until 15th-level so he can call a dragon?</p><p></p><p>[edit to add]: Also consider that DoTF considers <em>waiting</em> to be a form of payment for a mount. By waiting an extra level before calling his mount, the paladin is already entitled to the +1CR of the "celestial" template on a regular warhorse, or to have a griffon instead. Two levels and (s)he can have a unicorn. So I'm not sure the paladin should have to wait and burn a feat to improve his mount, only to wind up with something no more powerful than can be gained with the feat alone, minus mount or waiting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 808265, member: 707"] Keep in mind that you're adding the CR of the mount as a part of what's gained from the Leadership feat, which I'm not sure is fair. If the paladin simply acquired a celestial warhorse and a 5th-level fighter cohort, combining their CRs would also break the Leadership limit, but is perfectly legal and non-abusive. So do you consider the ability to combine two creatures (CR3 and CR5) into one CR8 creature abusive? In some ways, this is advantageous (the CR8 creature will be harder to kill). In other ways, this is detrimental (if it dies, you're out the whole CR8, and it can be killed with a single spell/attack, instead of two. And it only gets one action per round, instead of two.) Still, you may be correct. If so, though, how would you handle it? Dragon cohorts set a precedent for combining a mount and cohort. How would you impliment this, for a paladin who doesn't want to wait until 15th-level so he can call a dragon? [edit to add]: Also consider that DoTF considers [i]waiting[/i] to be a form of payment for a mount. By waiting an extra level before calling his mount, the paladin is already entitled to the +1CR of the "celestial" template on a regular warhorse, or to have a griffon instead. Two levels and (s)he can have a unicorn. So I'm not sure the paladin should have to wait and burn a feat to improve his mount, only to wind up with something no more powerful than can be gained with the feat alone, minus mount or waiting. [/QUOTE]
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