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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7347116" data-attributes="member: 6802951"><p>Its less "arguing against" and more "pointing out what the rules actually say".</p><p>Its <em>always </em>up to the DM in the end, whether that is Paladins needing to worship something, or Wizards only coming from a single nation in the setting.</p><p></p><p> It is the Oath of a Paladin that grants them their abilities. Whether that oath is sworn to a deity, or to their ancestors, or the blood of their murdered family, or anything else.</p><p>Now it is entirely possible, as you say, for a Paladin to fail to uphold their Oath. I'm not seeing why they would not be able to redeem it if they didn't worship a deity though. Its not the deity granting the power in the first place.</p><p></p><p>The Oath of Vengeance is to swear to defeat a specific evil whatever the cost. A devil offering just the right amount of power at the right time to help the Paladin achieve that is going to have a <em>seriously </em>tempting offer.</p><p></p><p>Remember that not all Warlocks have made a conscious choice to engage in a pact with another entity, and the cost isn't always going to be the warlocks soul, service, or anything that contradicts their principles.</p><p>I've had a celestial pact warlock become a Paladin by swearing their oath to their patron - I'd imagine that that would be relatively common amongst Oath of the Ancients paladins as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7347116, member: 6802951"] Its less "arguing against" and more "pointing out what the rules actually say". Its [I]always [/I]up to the DM in the end, whether that is Paladins needing to worship something, or Wizards only coming from a single nation in the setting. It is the Oath of a Paladin that grants them their abilities. Whether that oath is sworn to a deity, or to their ancestors, or the blood of their murdered family, or anything else. Now it is entirely possible, as you say, for a Paladin to fail to uphold their Oath. I'm not seeing why they would not be able to redeem it if they didn't worship a deity though. Its not the deity granting the power in the first place. The Oath of Vengeance is to swear to defeat a specific evil whatever the cost. A devil offering just the right amount of power at the right time to help the Paladin achieve that is going to have a [I]seriously [/I]tempting offer. Remember that not all Warlocks have made a conscious choice to engage in a pact with another entity, and the cost isn't always going to be the warlocks soul, service, or anything that contradicts their principles. I've had a celestial pact warlock become a Paladin by swearing their oath to their patron - I'd imagine that that would be relatively common amongst Oath of the Ancients paladins as well. [/QUOTE]
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