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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6026917" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>That's a pretty good summation of the research so far. I learned that the author recently co-founded a non-profit to do some more meaty research, so it'll be interesting once that gets going.</p><p></p><p>Oh and "fry curious"!! I'd +1 you if I hadn't done so too recently <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's quite a bit of history involved, but the short version is WWII took a great toll on the European scientific community (where Taubes' argument proto-originated), and at the same time a moralistic streak (I guess you could call it) in a few American doctors was followed by the exercise industry boom. Since then it's basically become accepted wisdom...something like the court cases upholding the rights of corporations as individuals which rely on precedent which rely on precedent, going all the way back to some very faulty research coupled with profit-driven "nutrition experts".</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I realize how controversial this is and that nutrition can be a bit like religion or politics. My horse in this race isn't to win anyone else over. Heck, I dont even have a comprehensive answer yet. It has been to improve my health and educate myself, and inspire others to question.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=My personal health story]When I was on some hard antidepressant meds three years back (thankfully no more), they caused a metabolic reaction where I gained 50 pounds, going from 190 to 240. Some of the weight was water retention, yes, but most of it was fat. While I had low periods of lethargy and overeating, I had more periods of a disciplined exercise regimen and healthy eating (my usual baseline). Of course my doc told me to lose the weight I should eat "right" and exercise more. I grew up that way, and for me those words were pretty much a mantra, so that's what I did.</p><p></p><p>But the weight was persistent, and while I lost 10 pounds water weight pretty swiftly once I got off those meds, the rest hung around like an unwanted in-law. As I tracked myself with a biweekly spreadsheet and measured portions I realized that my weight would sometimes stay the same after several days of vigorous exercise and normal eating. According to calories in/calories out that made no sense. </p><p></p><p>My suspicion was that in recovery I would have high carbohydrate, high glycemic index food and drink (rice, noodles, Gatorade, juice, ice cream) and this somehow induced a state where my body sought to create fat. My friends suggested this or that diet, but I know diets have notoriously poor success ratios and people ping-pong their weight. Instead I started researching "metabolic syndrome" and happened upon Taubes books, which have been a great springboard for my own inquiry and experimentation.</p><p></p><p>Since implementing the suggestions about diet modification he gives, along with a battery of nutritional supplements from my own research, combined with sufficient sleep, and no change to my normal exercise regimen, I've been losing 1.5 pounds a week for the past 7 weeks, going from 240 to 230. But the biggest change I've noticed is that I have fewer moments of extreme lethargy or sudden urges to overconsume food. It feels like I'm slowly but steadily getting the "old me" back.</p><p></p><p>-Aaron[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6026917, member: 20323"] That's a pretty good summation of the research so far. I learned that the author recently co-founded a non-profit to do some more meaty research, so it'll be interesting once that gets going. Oh and "fry curious"!! I'd +1 you if I hadn't done so too recently :) There's quite a bit of history involved, but the short version is WWII took a great toll on the European scientific community (where Taubes' argument proto-originated), and at the same time a moralistic streak (I guess you could call it) in a few American doctors was followed by the exercise industry boom. Since then it's basically become accepted wisdom...something like the court cases upholding the rights of corporations as individuals which rely on precedent which rely on precedent, going all the way back to some very faulty research coupled with profit-driven "nutrition experts". Anyhow, I realize how controversial this is and that nutrition can be a bit like religion or politics. My horse in this race isn't to win anyone else over. Heck, I dont even have a comprehensive answer yet. It has been to improve my health and educate myself, and inspire others to question. [sblock=My personal health story]When I was on some hard antidepressant meds three years back (thankfully no more), they caused a metabolic reaction where I gained 50 pounds, going from 190 to 240. Some of the weight was water retention, yes, but most of it was fat. While I had low periods of lethargy and overeating, I had more periods of a disciplined exercise regimen and healthy eating (my usual baseline). Of course my doc told me to lose the weight I should eat "right" and exercise more. I grew up that way, and for me those words were pretty much a mantra, so that's what I did. But the weight was persistent, and while I lost 10 pounds water weight pretty swiftly once I got off those meds, the rest hung around like an unwanted in-law. As I tracked myself with a biweekly spreadsheet and measured portions I realized that my weight would sometimes stay the same after several days of vigorous exercise and normal eating. According to calories in/calories out that made no sense. My suspicion was that in recovery I would have high carbohydrate, high glycemic index food and drink (rice, noodles, Gatorade, juice, ice cream) and this somehow induced a state where my body sought to create fat. My friends suggested this or that diet, but I know diets have notoriously poor success ratios and people ping-pong their weight. Instead I started researching "metabolic syndrome" and happened upon Taubes books, which have been a great springboard for my own inquiry and experimentation. Since implementing the suggestions about diet modification he gives, along with a battery of nutritional supplements from my own research, combined with sufficient sleep, and no change to my normal exercise regimen, I've been losing 1.5 pounds a week for the past 7 weeks, going from 240 to 230. But the biggest change I've noticed is that I have fewer moments of extreme lethargy or sudden urges to overconsume food. It feels like I'm slowly but steadily getting the "old me" back. -Aaron[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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