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<blockquote data-quote="Koloth" data-source="post: 7735883" data-attributes="member: 6706231"><p>IANAL. How legally binding TOS are isn't fully decided, at least in the US. In this case, at least 3 groups are involved. KS itself, Palladium, and the backers. KS has a TOS which both Palladium and the backers assented to to some degree. Palladium probably more as I assume there are more things to agree to to start a project as a Creator then there are as a backer. Now it can get complicated by KS changing the TOS. Do the new terms apply to Palladium and the backers? Or the terms when each clicked? Possible those could be different(one TOS when Palladium created project and a freshly updated TOS when a backer supported). Normal contracts usually have to be agreed to by all parties before they become in effect. Many software and web companies are acting as though they can unilaterally change TOS, EULA etc without the end user having any say. As several have said, if it goes go court, the judge will have to figure it out. Quite possible a judge in one jurisdiction will find one way and one in another will go the other way due to different laws and precedents.</p><p></p><p>Takeaway - no matter how much we as backers want to think KS is a store, it isn't. It isn't an investment either. It is sort of somewhere in between where the legal system hasn't fully caught up yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Koloth, post: 7735883, member: 6706231"] IANAL. How legally binding TOS are isn't fully decided, at least in the US. In this case, at least 3 groups are involved. KS itself, Palladium, and the backers. KS has a TOS which both Palladium and the backers assented to to some degree. Palladium probably more as I assume there are more things to agree to to start a project as a Creator then there are as a backer. Now it can get complicated by KS changing the TOS. Do the new terms apply to Palladium and the backers? Or the terms when each clicked? Possible those could be different(one TOS when Palladium created project and a freshly updated TOS when a backer supported). Normal contracts usually have to be agreed to by all parties before they become in effect. Many software and web companies are acting as though they can unilaterally change TOS, EULA etc without the end user having any say. As several have said, if it goes go court, the judge will have to figure it out. Quite possible a judge in one jurisdiction will find one way and one in another will go the other way due to different laws and precedents. Takeaway - no matter how much we as backers want to think KS is a store, it isn't. It isn't an investment either. It is sort of somewhere in between where the legal system hasn't fully caught up yet. [/QUOTE]
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