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Pathfinder 2's Armor & A Preview of the Paladin!
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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7745599" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I'm not really into PF, but I am really into paladins as characters in FRPGing. I don't really like the way the "code" has been framed:</p><p></p><p>I think that the paladin is a fundamentally <em>hopeful</em> class - it's about faith in divine providence and deliverance. (Denethor's failure in LotR is <em>to have given up hope</em>.)</p><p></p><p>Ranking the moral obligations of a paladin, on the other hand, seems fundamentally pessimistic, and hence itself contrary to the paladins' faith.</p><p></p><p>The example given in the preview page is of lying to an evil king asked you if innocent lawbreakers were hiding in your church so he could execute them. But if the king asks, the paladin can simply refuse to answer. There's no legitimate law that obliges handing over "innocent lawbreakers" (it's not 100% clear what this means, but we could eg imagine an underground railroad situation).</p><p></p><p>The evil king might then imprison the paladin, but to seek to avoid that possibility by lying is precisly the sort of giving up that seems at odd with a paladin's faith.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7745599, member: 42582"] I'm not really into PF, but I am really into paladins as characters in FRPGing. I don't really like the way the "code" has been framed: I think that the paladin is a fundamentally [I]hopeful[/I] class - it's about faith in divine providence and deliverance. (Denethor's failure in LotR is [I]to have given up hope[/I].) Ranking the moral obligations of a paladin, on the other hand, seems fundamentally pessimistic, and hence itself contrary to the paladins' faith. The example given in the preview page is of lying to an evil king asked you if innocent lawbreakers were hiding in your church so he could execute them. But if the king asks, the paladin can simply refuse to answer. There's no legitimate law that obliges handing over "innocent lawbreakers" (it's not 100% clear what this means, but we could eg imagine an underground railroad situation). The evil king might then imprison the paladin, but to seek to avoid that possibility by lying is precisly the sort of giving up that seems at odd with a paladin's faith. [/QUOTE]
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