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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 7741412" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Let’s assume it costs 2 Actions, since 1 would make it objectively better than a standard attack. At two actions you are giving up either 2 regular attacks or 1 Power Attack for a chance at a small amount of damage if you miss by less than 10. That is, <em>at best</em>, a 50% chance of minimum damage. Assuming a 2 handed weapon and 18 Strength that’s, what, 6 damage? And if you hit, you just spent an extra Action for an attack that did nothing special.</p><p></p><p>Now, a move like this will have its uses - primarily when your chance of hitting is very low, or when a minimum damage hit is enough to kill your opponent. But it’s far from game-warping. Depending on what other Feats are available I doubt it will even be a particularly strong choice.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. I only used SA as my example because I’m not familiar enough with PF1 to know any Class-specific Feats off the top of my head. My point being, it’s a Fighter Feat. You need to be a Fighter to get it. So, if you want an ogre or whatever to have it, give that ogre some fighter levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing about the existence of this Feat indicates that a Fighter MUST hit for damage on every single attack either. It’s one Feat that Fighters can easily not take, that makes them more likely to hit for damage when they use it and still leaves the possibility of a non-damaging miss, except in extreme edge cases in which it would be a terrible maneuver to use anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 7741412, member: 6779196"] Let’s assume it costs 2 Actions, since 1 would make it objectively better than a standard attack. At two actions you are giving up either 2 regular attacks or 1 Power Attack for a chance at a small amount of damage if you miss by less than 10. That is, [I]at best[/I], a 50% chance of minimum damage. Assuming a 2 handed weapon and 18 Strength that’s, what, 6 damage? And if you hit, you just spent an extra Action for an attack that did nothing special. Now, a move like this will have its uses - primarily when your chance of hitting is very low, or when a minimum damage hit is enough to kill your opponent. But it’s far from game-warping. Depending on what other Feats are available I doubt it will even be a particularly strong choice. Sure. I only used SA as my example because I’m not familiar enough with PF1 to know any Class-specific Feats off the top of my head. My point being, it’s a Fighter Feat. You need to be a Fighter to get it. So, if you want an ogre or whatever to have it, give that ogre some fighter levels. Nothing about the existence of this Feat indicates that a Fighter MUST hit for damage on every single attack either. It’s one Feat that Fighters can easily not take, that makes them more likely to hit for damage when they use it and still leaves the possibility of a non-damaging miss, except in extreme edge cases in which it would be a terrible maneuver to use anyway. [/QUOTE]
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