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<blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 9083657" data-attributes="member: 891"><p>I believe Paizo misread their community when they 'somewhat' "forced" all their casters to be support / utility. You can build around that to be a DPS, but in so doing you're moving against the grain, as even the upcoming cantrip nerf helps to show. Cantrips were, after all, an easy path to making a PF2E caster into an "off-DPS" - Electric Arc gave you a 2nd tier on demand blast attack - equivalent to maybe a max spell-rank -1 or -2 spell slot. Not great, but enough to 'phone it in' from the backline as a DPS/Support.</p><p></p><p>The things is, most people want to play DPS. Just try to build a team comp in any online group play game that has roles - whatever the support roles are will be harder to fill. Entire raid comps can fall apart even in games that let you switch your role on the fly because many people would rather not play at all than play a support.</p><p></p><p>Now they finally have a "pure DPS" "sort of caster". As [USER=7025176]@grankless[/USER] notes you CAN make it into a support - but a support kineticist is now against the grain. You don't get that many impulses. Each one you spend going down the support route route is one more that is attempt to move your class chassis away from it's intention over to something else.</p><p></p><p>Like making a fighter that then spends all their feats on academia and out of combat healing. You can "almost" do it. But it's not the class intention ("almost" as in yeah, this is just an analogy - the actual fighter class feats might not have enough non-combat options).</p><p></p><p>I do see a problem in that... there is only 1 example now of the 'role most people want', and a huge pile of caster classes all with a core chassis that is not the role the majority wants. Imagine showing up to World of Warcraft if the game had 10 healing specs and then the fire mage class, and that was it outside of fury warrior, rogue, and hunter.</p><p></p><p>7 rulebooks in (core, APG, GnG, SoM, BoD, DA, and now this), PF2E finally got it's first DPS caster. There's going to be a LOT of people wanting to play this class. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kichwas, post: 9083657, member: 891"] I believe Paizo misread their community when they 'somewhat' "forced" all their casters to be support / utility. You can build around that to be a DPS, but in so doing you're moving against the grain, as even the upcoming cantrip nerf helps to show. Cantrips were, after all, an easy path to making a PF2E caster into an "off-DPS" - Electric Arc gave you a 2nd tier on demand blast attack - equivalent to maybe a max spell-rank -1 or -2 spell slot. Not great, but enough to 'phone it in' from the backline as a DPS/Support. The things is, most people want to play DPS. Just try to build a team comp in any online group play game that has roles - whatever the support roles are will be harder to fill. Entire raid comps can fall apart even in games that let you switch your role on the fly because many people would rather not play at all than play a support. Now they finally have a "pure DPS" "sort of caster". As [USER=7025176]@grankless[/USER] notes you CAN make it into a support - but a support kineticist is now against the grain. You don't get that many impulses. Each one you spend going down the support route route is one more that is attempt to move your class chassis away from it's intention over to something else. Like making a fighter that then spends all their feats on academia and out of combat healing. You can "almost" do it. But it's not the class intention ("almost" as in yeah, this is just an analogy - the actual fighter class feats might not have enough non-combat options). I do see a problem in that... there is only 1 example now of the 'role most people want', and a huge pile of caster classes all with a core chassis that is not the role the majority wants. Imagine showing up to World of Warcraft if the game had 10 healing specs and then the fire mage class, and that was it outside of fury warrior, rogue, and hunter. 7 rulebooks in (core, APG, GnG, SoM, BoD, DA, and now this), PF2E finally got it's first DPS caster. There's going to be a LOT of people wanting to play this class. ;) [/QUOTE]
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