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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9012102" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>They really did seem to imply the system as it stood was only using OGL as a formality for sharing content, and that a future version of the CRB would just swap the OGL page for ORC with the remainder of the book being the same. There was no implication that "in the future, we will make sure our books are 100% divorced from OGL-derrived content." </p><p></p><p>If I can put on a tinfoil hat for a minute. Pathfinder 1e was a D&D clone that sold itself as being more D&D than D&D was at the time. They hewed very close to the D&D tropes because that was profitable for them. When they came to making PF2e, that wasn't as viable a strategy since D&D had returned to form. So they wanted it to be more their own thing rather than a clone. But they wanted it to feel like a continuation of PF1e and Golarion as well, and that meant keeping some of the bigger tropes to keep it somewhat familiar. Now, four years later they have shown their system is successful, and the OGL is a perfect opportunity to purge the last remnants of D&D out of the system. I have few doubts that they considered removing alignment or ability scores earlier but kept them to create continuity with PF1e and any refugees from D&D. Now, such legacy elements are more of a hindrance and this is their attempt to remove them and further distinguish their game from WotC's. </p><p></p><p>I am more curious about what legacy monsters and spells get axed or changed. We know about magic missile getting a name change and dragons getting an overhaul, but I wonder about other monsters like owlbear or the selection of giants. Couple that with the problematic ones, I can see a not small part of the bestiary getting changed in some way. That in turn will end up retconning Golarion as it has been known. (For example, many planar monsters, or drow). </p><p></p><p>But ultimately, it will probably be good for Paizo to tear the scab off and make Pathfinder as distinct as possible by ditching legacy elements. And I can understand people who will be upset by that. I mean, people were upset when WotC changes lore in settings or monsters, I imagine Paizo will be similar.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9012102, member: 7635"] They really did seem to imply the system as it stood was only using OGL as a formality for sharing content, and that a future version of the CRB would just swap the OGL page for ORC with the remainder of the book being the same. There was no implication that "in the future, we will make sure our books are 100% divorced from OGL-derrived content." If I can put on a tinfoil hat for a minute. Pathfinder 1e was a D&D clone that sold itself as being more D&D than D&D was at the time. They hewed very close to the D&D tropes because that was profitable for them. When they came to making PF2e, that wasn't as viable a strategy since D&D had returned to form. So they wanted it to be more their own thing rather than a clone. But they wanted it to feel like a continuation of PF1e and Golarion as well, and that meant keeping some of the bigger tropes to keep it somewhat familiar. Now, four years later they have shown their system is successful, and the OGL is a perfect opportunity to purge the last remnants of D&D out of the system. I have few doubts that they considered removing alignment or ability scores earlier but kept them to create continuity with PF1e and any refugees from D&D. Now, such legacy elements are more of a hindrance and this is their attempt to remove them and further distinguish their game from WotC's. I am more curious about what legacy monsters and spells get axed or changed. We know about magic missile getting a name change and dragons getting an overhaul, but I wonder about other monsters like owlbear or the selection of giants. Couple that with the problematic ones, I can see a not small part of the bestiary getting changed in some way. That in turn will end up retconning Golarion as it has been known. (For example, many planar monsters, or drow). But ultimately, it will probably be good for Paizo to tear the scab off and make Pathfinder as distinct as possible by ditching legacy elements. And I can understand people who will be upset by that. I mean, people were upset when WotC changes lore in settings or monsters, I imagine Paizo will be similar. [/QUOTE]
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