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Payn's Ponderings: The Fighter's identity; or, what's left after the combat pillar?
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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8550912" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Outside spells and skills most classes get next to nothing for out of combat. Class abilities outside skill enhances and spells are just nearly non-existent for non-combat pillars. Even the ones fighters look at in envy of are never rated as anything more than ribbon abilities. Bells and Whistles as you refer to such abilities above.</p><p></p><p>So I propose - Give the Fighter a ribbon ability or two. Something related with threat assessment could be thematic and then give them something to bring them in line with skills. Grant them expertise to a couple of skills. In fact, just make expertise a design principle for all non-magical PC's.</p><p></p><p>Doing anything more than this really turns into a discussion of martial vs caster. Which IMO seems more like a proxy war for either making fighters mythic or nerfing wizards than actually helping fighters close the gap within the existing game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 8550912, member: 6795602"] Outside spells and skills most classes get next to nothing for out of combat. Class abilities outside skill enhances and spells are just nearly non-existent for non-combat pillars. Even the ones fighters look at in envy of are never rated as anything more than ribbon abilities. Bells and Whistles as you refer to such abilities above. So I propose - Give the Fighter a ribbon ability or two. Something related with threat assessment could be thematic and then give them something to bring them in line with skills. Grant them expertise to a couple of skills. In fact, just make expertise a design principle for all non-magical PC's. Doing anything more than this really turns into a discussion of martial vs caster. Which IMO seems more like a proxy war for either making fighters mythic or nerfing wizards than actually helping fighters close the gap within the existing game. [/QUOTE]
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