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<blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 6088875" data-attributes="member: 98255"><p>Yeah, it's not like the Wallflower in my group doesn't react - he does - but react is <strong><em>all </em></strong>he does. Scene framing still works for me, and everyone else at the table, but I always want to try and find a way to help kick the game up a notch for everyone, even wallflowers. Anything I could glean from others on how to provoke him into some more proactive play would be a boon. Naturally, you can lead a horse to water and all that, but I want to be able to say I've done my best.</p><p></p><p>It's less of a problem for the other more passive player in the group. He has strong characterization and when I feed him cues, he grabs them. He does a lot of background stuff for me to tie into as well, it's really just his one character that causes potential issues in my wife's game. On top of that I think she's more keen on sandboxing and less on scene-framing, though after this thread and hearing from me about ad nauseam, she's eager to try some of the techniques to see if conscious application of them will endear her better to DMing 4e (she prefers running 2e).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nemesis Destiny, post: 6088875, member: 98255"] Yeah, it's not like the Wallflower in my group doesn't react - he does - but react is [B][I]all [/I][/B]he does. Scene framing still works for me, and everyone else at the table, but I always want to try and find a way to help kick the game up a notch for everyone, even wallflowers. Anything I could glean from others on how to provoke him into some more proactive play would be a boon. Naturally, you can lead a horse to water and all that, but I want to be able to say I've done my best. It's less of a problem for the other more passive player in the group. He has strong characterization and when I feed him cues, he grabs them. He does a lot of background stuff for me to tie into as well, it's really just his one character that causes potential issues in my wife's game. On top of that I think she's more keen on sandboxing and less on scene-framing, though after this thread and hearing from me about ad nauseam, she's eager to try some of the techniques to see if conscious application of them will endear her better to DMing 4e (she prefers running 2e). [/QUOTE]
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