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<blockquote data-quote="c0wfunk" data-source="post: 7582703" data-attributes="member: 6989857"><p>heh .. I definitely like this approach but of course my particulars are a bit different and I haven't quite settled on the best approach / line of persuasion & deception and I'm now about 12 hours from game time <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The scene is a bit complex - the BBEG is the one they've been chasing since we started and this is their first encounter so there is bias to overcome. They will first meet a doppleganger disguised as BBEG as the big bad hides in his/her spider form - this individual is a gender ambiguous drow who can polymorph into a phase spider. S/he is a hexblade warlock as is one of my PCs. The warlock PC started getting hints in his dreams last session that there was a link between the big bad and his patron. So the goal of the BBEG here is to open a portal guarded by a wraith in order to get to the shadowfell to visit / pay tribute to the raven queen. </p><p></p><p>The PCs have been more effective than BBEG's own forces in reaching the goal so s/he is looking to gain their services any way possible - first attempting to appeal to the idea that s/he has been portrayed falsely as evil and is really the victim of oppressive forces and disloyal underlings - which s/he probably believes. But if that fails, using magic - hold person at 5th level, phantasmal killer, mass suggestion are tools to accomplish this. There will also be ample spiders around, and more being produced from nearby eggs every round if we end up in battle, as well as a cadre of bugbears waiting to ambush with nets. So there will likely not be character deaths, but if they fail they'd be captured and would wake up in the Shadowfell.</p><p></p><p>To complicate things further there is a statue that is actually a neutral Azer guarding the area where the PCs will start the session who will wake up and start attacking if there is a battle and a Wraith who hates all of them guarding the room at the other end of the cavern where the portal ritual will occur.</p><p></p><p>So - obviously a lot going on here and I likely expect and will quite enjoy a big climactic boss battle, but I wanted to start with the social encounter and see how we navigate it. So far most of them have been fairly awkward (from both the player's and me as a DM) as we get used to playing this type of game. None of us are terribly comfortable with the acting side of things but they all enjoy role playing in the sense of thinking about how their character will react to things as presented and we are all long and close friends so socially comfortable in that sense. All that is to say I'm looking for a balance but I want to push things a little here. We are approaching level 5 and moving into bigger worlds and adventures, so I want to up the ante a bit, mechanically as well as narratively, and in the role playing interactions as well.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the sounding board, cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="c0wfunk, post: 7582703, member: 6989857"] heh .. I definitely like this approach but of course my particulars are a bit different and I haven't quite settled on the best approach / line of persuasion & deception and I'm now about 12 hours from game time :) The scene is a bit complex - the BBEG is the one they've been chasing since we started and this is their first encounter so there is bias to overcome. They will first meet a doppleganger disguised as BBEG as the big bad hides in his/her spider form - this individual is a gender ambiguous drow who can polymorph into a phase spider. S/he is a hexblade warlock as is one of my PCs. The warlock PC started getting hints in his dreams last session that there was a link between the big bad and his patron. So the goal of the BBEG here is to open a portal guarded by a wraith in order to get to the shadowfell to visit / pay tribute to the raven queen. The PCs have been more effective than BBEG's own forces in reaching the goal so s/he is looking to gain their services any way possible - first attempting to appeal to the idea that s/he has been portrayed falsely as evil and is really the victim of oppressive forces and disloyal underlings - which s/he probably believes. But if that fails, using magic - hold person at 5th level, phantasmal killer, mass suggestion are tools to accomplish this. There will also be ample spiders around, and more being produced from nearby eggs every round if we end up in battle, as well as a cadre of bugbears waiting to ambush with nets. So there will likely not be character deaths, but if they fail they'd be captured and would wake up in the Shadowfell. To complicate things further there is a statue that is actually a neutral Azer guarding the area where the PCs will start the session who will wake up and start attacking if there is a battle and a Wraith who hates all of them guarding the room at the other end of the cavern where the portal ritual will occur. So - obviously a lot going on here and I likely expect and will quite enjoy a big climactic boss battle, but I wanted to start with the social encounter and see how we navigate it. So far most of them have been fairly awkward (from both the player's and me as a DM) as we get used to playing this type of game. None of us are terribly comfortable with the acting side of things but they all enjoy role playing in the sense of thinking about how their character will react to things as presented and we are all long and close friends so socially comfortable in that sense. All that is to say I'm looking for a balance but I want to push things a little here. We are approaching level 5 and moving into bigger worlds and adventures, so I want to up the ante a bit, mechanically as well as narratively, and in the role playing interactions as well. Thanks for the sounding board, cheers. [/QUOTE]
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