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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7229824" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I have more reasons but I don't need them. It's a good reason. You have not refuted it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You have not tried to refute it though. All you've said is, "examine the feats and such and you will see" which isn't a refutation it's just you asserting you're correct. </p><p></p><p>250gp plus time is not as precious a resources as a feat slot, or an ASI, or a level in a class, which are the only ways to get better at a skill after first level. Other people have crunched the numbers and similarly found tool proficiency is not as valued by the designers as skill proficiency. So, there are good arguments supported by good math against your opinion.</p><p></p><p>Assuming you disagree, WHY? How does my argument hold no water, when it sure seems to be a pretty darn good argument that you have not disputed other than asserting your disagreement. [Edit - and I see someone else said almost the same thing to you over this same issue - so I am not alone in believing you're not supporting your argument and simply asserting it].</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7229824, member: 2525"] I have more reasons but I don't need them. It's a good reason. You have not refuted it. You have not tried to refute it though. All you've said is, "examine the feats and such and you will see" which isn't a refutation it's just you asserting you're correct. 250gp plus time is not as precious a resources as a feat slot, or an ASI, or a level in a class, which are the only ways to get better at a skill after first level. Other people have crunched the numbers and similarly found tool proficiency is not as valued by the designers as skill proficiency. So, there are good arguments supported by good math against your opinion. Assuming you disagree, WHY? How does my argument hold no water, when it sure seems to be a pretty darn good argument that you have not disputed other than asserting your disagreement. [Edit - and I see someone else said almost the same thing to you over this same issue - so I am not alone in believing you're not supporting your argument and simply asserting it]. [/QUOTE]
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