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<blockquote data-quote="squibbles" data-source="post: 9086364" data-attributes="member: 6937590"><p>So, I don't think WotC are going to make any new settings--but if they did, this is my thinking:</p><p></p><p>In the DMG there is a list of flavors of fantasy. In order, they are:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Heroic Fantasy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sword and Sorcery</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Epic Fantasy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mythic Fantasy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dark Fantasy</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Intrigue</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mystery</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Swashbuckling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">War</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wuxia</li> </ul><p>Most of those are pretty solidly served by existing settings and/or adventures with, I'd say, Sword and Sorcery and Wuxia significantly lacking. Well, WotC have some decent settings for Wuxia sitting in their D&D and MtG back catalogue, but for Sword and Sorcery they have Dark Sun (it's the only example of S&S given in the DMG, incidentally).</p><p></p><p>And for, IMO, pretty boneheaded reasons, they will likely never publish Dark Sun again.</p><p></p><p>But S&S--or low magic more generally--is a genre that, I think, a lot of players and DMs would appreciate WotC to serve.</p><p></p><p>So:</p><p></p><p>It's the sword and sorcery setting. It's influences are Robert E Howard, Fritz Leiber, and Saturday morning cartoons. Y'all know the tropes. Its Iconic bad guys are evil sorcerers, hulking brutes, scheming politicians, and prehistoric animals.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. And this is its main draw. It has a spell-less ranger. It has magic-free subclasses for the barbarian, fighter, and rogue--and perhaps some warlocks too. It introduces rules that make parties of all martial characters better able to succeed (without outright excluding spellcasting classes).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See above. The smarmy marketing guys will say "Sword and Sorcery" at least 15 times in each PR interview.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So lots of pitches could work. But the one I like, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/a-whole-new-world.679800/page-3#post-8262710" target="_blank">which I have pitched here before</a> is this:</p><p></p><p>Most S&S type settings (such as Primeval Thule) call back to a time when the world was a jungle ruled by serpentmen, rakshasas, and other peoples cruel and destructive to humankind. So why not set a campaign setting in <em>that </em>time (which, to my knowledge, hasn't been done before).</p><p></p><p>There are preponderantly powerful unambiguously evil empires of Yuan-ti, Tabaxi, Dragonborn, Thri-Kreen and such. They are mighty, but declining.</p><p></p><p>The realms of humankind, Atlanteans(obviously), other oppressed peoples, and rebels and dissidents of the Yuan-ti and pals, have--through a lucky fluke--overthrown one of these empires of evil. Humankind is in its strongest position ever, but things are precarious.</p><p></p><p>The old regime, though defeated, has left behind lots of unconquered fortresses, sinister underground labs, terror cells operating out of hidden mausoleums, mustache twirling villains, and quietly scheming reactionaries. And there is no shortage of geopolitically contested monster infested jungle.</p><p></p><p>ALSO dinosaurs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="squibbles, post: 9086364, member: 6937590"] So, I don't think WotC are going to make any new settings--but if they did, this is my thinking: In the DMG there is a list of flavors of fantasy. In order, they are: [LIST] [*]Heroic Fantasy [*]Sword and Sorcery [*]Epic Fantasy [*]Mythic Fantasy [*]Dark Fantasy [*]Intrigue [*]Mystery [*]Swashbuckling [*]War [*]Wuxia [/LIST] Most of those are pretty solidly served by existing settings and/or adventures with, I'd say, Sword and Sorcery and Wuxia significantly lacking. Well, WotC have some decent settings for Wuxia sitting in their D&D and MtG back catalogue, but for Sword and Sorcery they have Dark Sun (it's the only example of S&S given in the DMG, incidentally). And for, IMO, pretty boneheaded reasons, they will likely never publish Dark Sun again. But S&S--or low magic more generally--is a genre that, I think, a lot of players and DMs would appreciate WotC to serve. So: It's the sword and sorcery setting. It's influences are Robert E Howard, Fritz Leiber, and Saturday morning cartoons. Y'all know the tropes. Its Iconic bad guys are evil sorcerers, hulking brutes, scheming politicians, and prehistoric animals. Yes. And this is its main draw. It has a spell-less ranger. It has magic-free subclasses for the barbarian, fighter, and rogue--and perhaps some warlocks too. It introduces rules that make parties of all martial characters better able to succeed (without outright excluding spellcasting classes). See above. The smarmy marketing guys will say "Sword and Sorcery" at least 15 times in each PR interview. So lots of pitches could work. But the one I like, [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/a-whole-new-world.679800/page-3#post-8262710']which I have pitched here before[/URL] is this: Most S&S type settings (such as Primeval Thule) call back to a time when the world was a jungle ruled by serpentmen, rakshasas, and other peoples cruel and destructive to humankind. So why not set a campaign setting in [I]that [/I]time (which, to my knowledge, hasn't been done before). There are preponderantly powerful unambiguously evil empires of Yuan-ti, Tabaxi, Dragonborn, Thri-Kreen and such. They are mighty, but declining. The realms of humankind, Atlanteans(obviously), other oppressed peoples, and rebels and dissidents of the Yuan-ti and pals, have--through a lucky fluke--overthrown one of these empires of evil. Humankind is in its strongest position ever, but things are precarious. The old regime, though defeated, has left behind lots of unconquered fortresses, sinister underground labs, terror cells operating out of hidden mausoleums, mustache twirling villains, and quietly scheming reactionaries. And there is no shortage of geopolitically contested monster infested jungle. ALSO dinosaurs. [/QUOTE]
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