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<blockquote data-quote="reiella" data-source="post: 1370475" data-attributes="member: 160"><p>The Lady is defined as undefined.</p><p></p><p>Simple as that, your best shot at it is to take the heresy of Die Vecna, Die.</p><p></p><p>Aside from that, the Lady can be WHATEVER the DM wishes her to be for their campaign purposes. She can be a freaking ghost of a kid's lost teddybear for all we know.</p><p></p><p>To the rampant hyperbole about the basis of killing her, I just have to add this.</p><p></p><p>"SUCH IS THE WAY OF MANGO!"</p><p></p><p>Secondary.</p><p></p><p>I like Planescape because of the tone and theme.</p><p></p><p>Fun notes, Ao is specifically mentioned in the 2e Planescape box (The deity home location map thingy) and isn't any more a considerable threat than Corellon (who, being the god of Munchkin Elves, I still maintain has the best shot <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />).</p><p></p><p>BlackMoria's comments about planar siege weapons in Sigil is also a bit misleading. The Lady supposedly can close all the portals in the city, and there is a Planar Siege Weapon in the city already (Coaxmetal).</p><p></p><p>Also, to make note, the city seems (in parts) independant of the will of the Lady and a unique entity (going so far as killing Dabus), so it is a doubtful argument that she is, in fact, the city itself. There are also some fun tales of the previous god of portals who watched over Sigil before the Lady came (And whose worship is grounds for Mazing/Flaying).</p><p></p><p>Mazes are all 'infinitely unique' as well, so not too likly to find a means to free ALL the mazed individuals in one go. Interesting sidenote, there are some implications that there are in fact some Deities in the Lady's Mazes.</p><p></p><p>Only real canon of an immortal/dying in a maze I've seen occured in Planescape, with TNO (who simply reforms in the maze) and a Gray Hag (who gets Splatted Good from all I can tell).</p><p></p><p>[ Sidenote, the AD&D 2e logo as canon has actually resulted in a number of canonization contradictions occuring, primarily in FR however, without considering the 3e content. Further, Planewalker is allowed to use the Planescape logo, and thus claim the same level of canon as 2e PS products. ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reiella, post: 1370475, member: 160"] The Lady is defined as undefined. Simple as that, your best shot at it is to take the heresy of Die Vecna, Die. Aside from that, the Lady can be WHATEVER the DM wishes her to be for their campaign purposes. She can be a freaking ghost of a kid's lost teddybear for all we know. To the rampant hyperbole about the basis of killing her, I just have to add this. "SUCH IS THE WAY OF MANGO!" Secondary. I like Planescape because of the tone and theme. Fun notes, Ao is specifically mentioned in the 2e Planescape box (The deity home location map thingy) and isn't any more a considerable threat than Corellon (who, being the god of Munchkin Elves, I still maintain has the best shot :P). BlackMoria's comments about planar siege weapons in Sigil is also a bit misleading. The Lady supposedly can close all the portals in the city, and there is a Planar Siege Weapon in the city already (Coaxmetal). Also, to make note, the city seems (in parts) independant of the will of the Lady and a unique entity (going so far as killing Dabus), so it is a doubtful argument that she is, in fact, the city itself. There are also some fun tales of the previous god of portals who watched over Sigil before the Lady came (And whose worship is grounds for Mazing/Flaying). Mazes are all 'infinitely unique' as well, so not too likly to find a means to free ALL the mazed individuals in one go. Interesting sidenote, there are some implications that there are in fact some Deities in the Lady's Mazes. Only real canon of an immortal/dying in a maze I've seen occured in Planescape, with TNO (who simply reforms in the maze) and a Gray Hag (who gets Splatted Good from all I can tell). [ Sidenote, the AD&D 2e logo as canon has actually resulted in a number of canonization contradictions occuring, primarily in FR however, without considering the 3e content. Further, Planewalker is allowed to use the Planescape logo, and thus claim the same level of canon as 2e PS products. ] [/QUOTE]
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