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[Planescape?] Yugoloths big relocation from Hades to Gehenna: why?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 2967180" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p><strong>Gather round, hold hands, it's story time.</strong></p><p></p><p>The 'loths didn't abandon the Waste, they just expanded into Gehenna, and they're seeking to do the same with Carceri as well. </p><p></p><p>The 'loths originated on the Waste and they spontaneously generate from the raw stuff of that plane, but since they colonized Gehenna eons ago and then tethered themselves to that plane (via the Tower Arcane) they now arise out of the furnaces of that latter plane as well. Seeking to do the same in Carceri, they're constructing the Tower of Incarnate Pain on Othrys, cobbling it together from dozens of millions of petitioners into a structure that when complete will rival the size of Khin-Oin and infect Carceri in the same way that they co-opted Gehenna.</p><p></p><p>The 'loths see a domination of the three neutral evil planes as something of a birthright, something to perhaps prove themselves worthy in the eyes of their creators the Baernaloths. In Gehenna they had no opposition, but in Carceri it's more difficult since the Demodands (Gehreleths) inhabit that plane, and the two races kill one another on sight. The Demodands were created by a renegade Baernaloth, either just before or just after the 'loths were created by the orthodox members of that primal NE race (timing depends on who you ask). The yugoloths abhor deities, but the Demodands revere their creator Apomps the Triple Aspected as a deity and have his/her/its/their direct support, and have demolished the Tower of Incarnate pain several times (Apomps might or might not be a deity, in some ways he's seemingly not and in other ways he's frighteningly more capable than any deity should be. His exile from the Waste may have actually been the formative event that created Carceri in the first place).</p><p></p><p>The 3e Manual of the Planes was a bit awkwardly worded in the suggestion that they all moved to Gehenna, which isn't true. 'loth rule over Gehenna is just more overt than their subtle, yet largely monolithic domination over the Gray Waste. Some of this then has leaked over into various other 3.x books, some just mentioning Gehenna and others mentioning the Waste and also Gehenna as well, probably depending on if the author was only familiar with the 3e coverage of the 'loths, or also the 2e and 1e material as well.</p><p></p><p>But the eventual intention by the 'loths is the connect the engines and furnaces of the Tower Arcane, the pools beneath Khin-Oin the Wasting Tower, and the Reflective Chasm of the Tower of Incarnate Pain into some unholy trio. What this will actually do isn't known, but the 'loths are fanatical about finishing the third great yugoloth tower to accomplish this, and it may at least in the way that I've developed in my own stories/storyhours be something like an attempt by the 'loths to mimic the three Loadstones of Misery in the Gray Waste (one per layer of the plane, they're presumed to be Baernaloth relics that predate the 'loths, and might be responsible for funneling or channeling the misery of the Waste and pooling together all of the emotions and life that the entirety of the plane itself saps and leaches from anything there).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 2967180, member: 11697"] [b]Gather round, hold hands, it's story time.[/b] The 'loths didn't abandon the Waste, they just expanded into Gehenna, and they're seeking to do the same with Carceri as well. The 'loths originated on the Waste and they spontaneously generate from the raw stuff of that plane, but since they colonized Gehenna eons ago and then tethered themselves to that plane (via the Tower Arcane) they now arise out of the furnaces of that latter plane as well. Seeking to do the same in Carceri, they're constructing the Tower of Incarnate Pain on Othrys, cobbling it together from dozens of millions of petitioners into a structure that when complete will rival the size of Khin-Oin and infect Carceri in the same way that they co-opted Gehenna. The 'loths see a domination of the three neutral evil planes as something of a birthright, something to perhaps prove themselves worthy in the eyes of their creators the Baernaloths. In Gehenna they had no opposition, but in Carceri it's more difficult since the Demodands (Gehreleths) inhabit that plane, and the two races kill one another on sight. The Demodands were created by a renegade Baernaloth, either just before or just after the 'loths were created by the orthodox members of that primal NE race (timing depends on who you ask). The yugoloths abhor deities, but the Demodands revere their creator Apomps the Triple Aspected as a deity and have his/her/its/their direct support, and have demolished the Tower of Incarnate pain several times (Apomps might or might not be a deity, in some ways he's seemingly not and in other ways he's frighteningly more capable than any deity should be. His exile from the Waste may have actually been the formative event that created Carceri in the first place). The 3e Manual of the Planes was a bit awkwardly worded in the suggestion that they all moved to Gehenna, which isn't true. 'loth rule over Gehenna is just more overt than their subtle, yet largely monolithic domination over the Gray Waste. Some of this then has leaked over into various other 3.x books, some just mentioning Gehenna and others mentioning the Waste and also Gehenna as well, probably depending on if the author was only familiar with the 3e coverage of the 'loths, or also the 2e and 1e material as well. But the eventual intention by the 'loths is the connect the engines and furnaces of the Tower Arcane, the pools beneath Khin-Oin the Wasting Tower, and the Reflective Chasm of the Tower of Incarnate Pain into some unholy trio. What this will actually do isn't known, but the 'loths are fanatical about finishing the third great yugoloth tower to accomplish this, and it may at least in the way that I've developed in my own stories/storyhours be something like an attempt by the 'loths to mimic the three Loadstones of Misery in the Gray Waste (one per layer of the plane, they're presumed to be Baernaloth relics that predate the 'loths, and might be responsible for funneling or channeling the misery of the Waste and pooling together all of the emotions and life that the entirety of the plane itself saps and leaches from anything there). [/QUOTE]
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