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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8900568" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>Except ... the GMs that I know have fun prepping for games. It's why we're GMs.</p><p></p><p>My players, on the other hand, do not have fun prepping for games. And if it becomes work for them they'll just choose not to play. After all, we could be playing Catan or Arkham Horror or even Heroquest instead and many of them would be quite happy with that choice. They like RPGs, but they like a lot of other games too, and if a game becomes work why would you play it?</p><p></p><p>And of course it is collaborative, but that doesn't mean that the homework away from the table is also collaborative. In my group at least our collaborative entertaining of each other happens at the table - we entertain each other in the moment, but I can't expect them to prep before the game any more than I'd expect them to prep for a game of Catan. It's a game, they're busy people, and I'm the one who decided to make this hobby a big part of my life and devote time to it. They're far more casual with the game than I am and that's an understanding we all have.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then it's something they can read at the table and don't have to worry about outside of the game.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I also have a one page setting sheet that my players can refer to during the game as needed. But I don't give them a 32 page (or more) book to read before starting an AP (which was what Paizo was suggesting back in the day at least). To me that's just nonsense, and if I were a player I probably wouldn't read it either unless the setting really grabbed me and I wanted to know more. Or I'd skim it at the table during the game just like my students try to get away with skimming any readings they've been assigned right before class starts <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8900568, member: 19857"] Except ... the GMs that I know have fun prepping for games. It's why we're GMs. My players, on the other hand, do not have fun prepping for games. And if it becomes work for them they'll just choose not to play. After all, we could be playing Catan or Arkham Horror or even Heroquest instead and many of them would be quite happy with that choice. They like RPGs, but they like a lot of other games too, and if a game becomes work why would you play it? And of course it is collaborative, but that doesn't mean that the homework away from the table is also collaborative. In my group at least our collaborative entertaining of each other happens at the table - we entertain each other in the moment, but I can't expect them to prep before the game any more than I'd expect them to prep for a game of Catan. It's a game, they're busy people, and I'm the one who decided to make this hobby a big part of my life and devote time to it. They're far more casual with the game than I am and that's an understanding we all have. Then it's something they can read at the table and don't have to worry about outside of the game. I mean, I also have a one page setting sheet that my players can refer to during the game as needed. But I don't give them a 32 page (or more) book to read before starting an AP (which was what Paizo was suggesting back in the day at least). To me that's just nonsense, and if I were a player I probably wouldn't read it either unless the setting really grabbed me and I wanted to know more. Or I'd skim it at the table during the game just like my students try to get away with skimming any readings they've been assigned right before class starts :) [/QUOTE]
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