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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3687960" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>Erekose--I looked at that stuff you mentioned. </p><p></p><p>Purge Aberrations looks like it is absolutely insane against Aberrations. </p><p></p><p>Valenar Trample is weird, but I'm not positive it is overpowered yet--Improved Overrun already gives you the can't be avoided on Overrun clause. Remember it's an Overrun and not a Trample. The main power-play here is that you also get free attacks all along your overrun. That's massive, and with Improved Overrun additionally to add the +4 to the checks, you could knock a lot of enemies prone and attack them with this.</p><p></p><p>Zaelshin Tu is indeed way way way too inexpensive for Revenant Blades. 1800 GP for a bonus feat and two +2 to skills and another +2 to Diplomacy on Valenar?</p><p></p><p>Revenant Blade with a Double Scimitar is absolutely ridiculous. The weird thing is that you can't use the four (counting the magic item) free feats for pre-reqs, and almost all of them are feats that are generally used for prereqs as well as being useful otherwise. So what will they do? Well, notably, you can grab Spring Attack or Great Cleave without any of their prereqs. And who needs Cleave when you jumped straight to Great Cleave? A non-Fighter4 will laugh with glee at the free Weapon Spec she otherwise could not have received. And then if she's not a Combat Expertise-chain user, she might just pick that one up just for the niche use. The other key issue is that Legendary Force is berserkly powerful for a high-Str character. You get 1.5x Str and double Power Attack with both sides of a two-handed weapon? That's insane! I remember a thread about this PrC going up after the book came out and Keith Baker said something specifically, but I can't remember if he was saying that it was changed to be too powerful after it got out of his hands or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3687960, member: 29014"] Erekose--I looked at that stuff you mentioned. Purge Aberrations looks like it is absolutely insane against Aberrations. Valenar Trample is weird, but I'm not positive it is overpowered yet--Improved Overrun already gives you the can't be avoided on Overrun clause. Remember it's an Overrun and not a Trample. The main power-play here is that you also get free attacks all along your overrun. That's massive, and with Improved Overrun additionally to add the +4 to the checks, you could knock a lot of enemies prone and attack them with this. Zaelshin Tu is indeed way way way too inexpensive for Revenant Blades. 1800 GP for a bonus feat and two +2 to skills and another +2 to Diplomacy on Valenar? Revenant Blade with a Double Scimitar is absolutely ridiculous. The weird thing is that you can't use the four (counting the magic item) free feats for pre-reqs, and almost all of them are feats that are generally used for prereqs as well as being useful otherwise. So what will they do? Well, notably, you can grab Spring Attack or Great Cleave without any of their prereqs. And who needs Cleave when you jumped straight to Great Cleave? A non-Fighter4 will laugh with glee at the free Weapon Spec she otherwise could not have received. And then if she's not a Combat Expertise-chain user, she might just pick that one up just for the niche use. The other key issue is that Legendary Force is berserkly powerful for a high-Str character. You get 1.5x Str and double Power Attack with both sides of a two-handed weapon? That's insane! I remember a thread about this PrC going up after the book came out and Keith Baker said something specifically, but I can't remember if he was saying that it was changed to be too powerful after it got out of his hands or not. [/QUOTE]
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