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<blockquote data-quote="iserith" data-source="post: 7290994" data-attributes="member: 97077"><p>I explain to the players that I only need them to state their goal and approach and to hold off on rolling because it is in their best interests.</p><p></p><p>See, I have to judge whether or not the approach is sufficient to achieve the goal. You might get an auto-success. So, the smart play in this situation in my view is to come up with a fun and reasonable approach to a goal for which you have a related proficiency (just in case you have to roll), then wait for the DM to make a ruling. Asking to roll or forcing a roll is asking for a chance for that d20 to screw you over and/or make you look stupid. It's sometimes funny, but it's not a great survival strategy. (And you don't need extra bad rolls to make the game funny.)</p><p></p><p>Always aim for auto-success, I say, and treat your skills as insurance against failure on the occasions when the DM calls for a check. In my experience, you will almost always be more successful than players who ask to make or force rolls.</p><p></p><p>Then I just ignore any rolls they make that I don't ask for. They catch on quick in my experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iserith, post: 7290994, member: 97077"] I explain to the players that I only need them to state their goal and approach and to hold off on rolling because it is in their best interests. See, I have to judge whether or not the approach is sufficient to achieve the goal. You might get an auto-success. So, the smart play in this situation in my view is to come up with a fun and reasonable approach to a goal for which you have a related proficiency (just in case you have to roll), then wait for the DM to make a ruling. Asking to roll or forcing a roll is asking for a chance for that d20 to screw you over and/or make you look stupid. It's sometimes funny, but it's not a great survival strategy. (And you don't need extra bad rolls to make the game funny.) Always aim for auto-success, I say, and treat your skills as insurance against failure on the occasions when the DM calls for a check. In my experience, you will almost always be more successful than players who ask to make or force rolls. Then I just ignore any rolls they make that I don't ask for. They catch on quick in my experience. [/QUOTE]
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