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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 9059079" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi there Casimir Liber!</p><p></p><p>...and thanks for the mention dave2008 buddy.</p><p></p><p>I think the three main problems with epic gaming (in 5e) are accessibility, balance and resources. </p><p></p><p>Any kind of advancing beyond the core 20 levels is some degree of added complexity. That will likely dissuade new player's from trying it. That said, 5e is much less complicated than certainly 3 or 4e.</p><p></p><p>Challenge Rating is a tricky thing to understand (just ask WotC). Above level 10 or so it can be difficult to accurately gauge and build encounters (though I think I have solved this issue myself).</p><p></p><p>There are very few epic resources within the core rules. I haven't personally bought any of the 2C Gaming epic material myself (because I didn't want it to colour my own rules which are coming in 2024) so I only have a passing familiarity to it. However, I think if you are simply planning to take things to Level 30 then 2C Gaming is probably the way to go.</p><p></p><p>As regards my own epic and immortal rules, I don't extend class levels beyond 20th. Instead you get divine ranks (from 1-30) which add on top of your class levels. Divine ranks are a power boost. Immortals are then customised by choosing Portfolios (God of War, or Strength or Magic etc.). Each divine rank is the equivalent to 5-6 class levels. So at Divine rank 30 (supreme being) you are effectively Level 200...although the boosts are not linear. For context, greater gods like Zeus and Odin are Divine Rank 6. This system allows you to replicate ANY possible Manga, Anime, Books, Comics, Movies you can imagine - no matter how overpowered, and it will still hold together. So you could conceivably have a party of PC's like Goku from Dragonball, a 'Q' from Star Trek, Infinity Gauntlet Thanos, Lord Ao from Forgotten Realms and Superman 1 million. Of course the bulk of the system focuses on the classic immortal ranks (1-6). So if you just want to play characters only slightly more powerful than a level 20 character you can stick to the first few divine ranks. I'm still working on everything but should have the Kickstarter ready for early 2024.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 9059079, member: 326"] Hi there Casimir Liber! ...and thanks for the mention dave2008 buddy. I think the three main problems with epic gaming (in 5e) are accessibility, balance and resources. Any kind of advancing beyond the core 20 levels is some degree of added complexity. That will likely dissuade new player's from trying it. That said, 5e is much less complicated than certainly 3 or 4e. Challenge Rating is a tricky thing to understand (just ask WotC). Above level 10 or so it can be difficult to accurately gauge and build encounters (though I think I have solved this issue myself). There are very few epic resources within the core rules. I haven't personally bought any of the 2C Gaming epic material myself (because I didn't want it to colour my own rules which are coming in 2024) so I only have a passing familiarity to it. However, I think if you are simply planning to take things to Level 30 then 2C Gaming is probably the way to go. As regards my own epic and immortal rules, I don't extend class levels beyond 20th. Instead you get divine ranks (from 1-30) which add on top of your class levels. Divine ranks are a power boost. Immortals are then customised by choosing Portfolios (God of War, or Strength or Magic etc.). Each divine rank is the equivalent to 5-6 class levels. So at Divine rank 30 (supreme being) you are effectively Level 200...although the boosts are not linear. For context, greater gods like Zeus and Odin are Divine Rank 6. This system allows you to replicate ANY possible Manga, Anime, Books, Comics, Movies you can imagine - no matter how overpowered, and it will still hold together. So you could conceivably have a party of PC's like Goku from Dragonball, a 'Q' from Star Trek, Infinity Gauntlet Thanos, Lord Ao from Forgotten Realms and Superman 1 million. Of course the bulk of the system focuses on the classic immortal ranks (1-6). So if you just want to play characters only slightly more powerful than a level 20 character you can stick to the first few divine ranks. I'm still working on everything but should have the Kickstarter ready for early 2024. [/QUOTE]
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