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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9060888" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>You seem to be talking about something COMPLETELY different than me. </p><p></p><p>You said that the rapier not being light hurts it for Dual-wielding. But in 2014 the Rapier was never a light weapon. It never could be used for dual-wielding without the feat. That was always a necessary step. </p><p></p><p>You then went on to discuss shortsword and dagger, which is 1d6 and 1d4... but the rapier also has Vex, so if you have the feat, which you must to dual-wield rapiers at all, you would use Rapier and Scimitar... which is basically identical and does 1d8 and 1d6. </p><p></p><p>I know you mentioned throwing daggers, but since you can sheath a weapon after your attack and draw a new weapon before your attack... Rapier Scimitar wouldn't prevent throwing daggers, and the feat allows you to draw two weapons instead of one. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The only real difference I'm seeing is that you can no longer dual-wield rapiers. But, even if you are just talking "I don't need the feat to dual-wield" this has always been true. Dual Shortsword was 2d6 compared to dual rapier being 2d8. So I'm very confused why you think Dual-Wielding somehow obviates the Rapier, when it works exactly like it used to work... just now with identical weapon masteries.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9060888, member: 6801228"] You seem to be talking about something COMPLETELY different than me. You said that the rapier not being light hurts it for Dual-wielding. But in 2014 the Rapier was never a light weapon. It never could be used for dual-wielding without the feat. That was always a necessary step. You then went on to discuss shortsword and dagger, which is 1d6 and 1d4... but the rapier also has Vex, so if you have the feat, which you must to dual-wield rapiers at all, you would use Rapier and Scimitar... which is basically identical and does 1d8 and 1d6. I know you mentioned throwing daggers, but since you can sheath a weapon after your attack and draw a new weapon before your attack... Rapier Scimitar wouldn't prevent throwing daggers, and the feat allows you to draw two weapons instead of one. The only real difference I'm seeing is that you can no longer dual-wield rapiers. But, even if you are just talking "I don't need the feat to dual-wield" this has always been true. Dual Shortsword was 2d6 compared to dual rapier being 2d8. So I'm very confused why you think Dual-Wielding somehow obviates the Rapier, when it works exactly like it used to work... just now with identical weapon masteries. [/QUOTE]
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