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<blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 6404330" data-attributes="member: 15800"><p>I'm certainly not trying to change your mind here, Pentegarn - it's chocolate and peanut butter, and not everyone likes it. But to call out a particular point, Eberron very consciously <strong>doesn't</strong> have firearms. The eternal wand is in some ways the equivalent of a musket in that it's a magical attack that can be used once and then recharged... but a wand can only be used by a spellcaster and they're far too expensive for common use. And physically, it's a wand. As for warforged, they're nothing about them that would classify them as cyborgs unless you're holding to the rumor that they might have human souls. They are golems, primarily made of wood and metal; it's simply that the wood components are "alive" enough to respond to healing. </p><p></p><p>The goal of Eberron was never to <em>mix</em> magic and technology, but rather to look at ways that existing D&D magic could be expanded to serve similar functions. The speaking stone "telegraph" is based on <em>whispering wind</em>, a spell that delivers a short message to a specific point. We have a slightly more efficient form of wand. Golems have been mass produced. But steam power, firearms, and similar things were consciously kept out of the setting. If you have a clear image of a fantasy setting with firearms, you could be thinking of Iron Kingdoms or even Pathfinder, which IIRC has a gunslinger. </p><p></p><p>Again: I'm not trying to convince you Eberron is your thing - I'm sure you've seen enough of it to know if it's not. And I understand that what you're saying is that it doesn't matter if it's actually a golem if it <em>feels</em> like a robot to you. But in particular, it's NOT a world of robot gunslingers, because the goal was always to explore the long-term evolution of magic - not to put magic and technology in the same world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellcow, post: 6404330, member: 15800"] I'm certainly not trying to change your mind here, Pentegarn - it's chocolate and peanut butter, and not everyone likes it. But to call out a particular point, Eberron very consciously [B]doesn't[/B] have firearms. The eternal wand is in some ways the equivalent of a musket in that it's a magical attack that can be used once and then recharged... but a wand can only be used by a spellcaster and they're far too expensive for common use. And physically, it's a wand. As for warforged, they're nothing about them that would classify them as cyborgs unless you're holding to the rumor that they might have human souls. They are golems, primarily made of wood and metal; it's simply that the wood components are "alive" enough to respond to healing. The goal of Eberron was never to [I]mix[/I] magic and technology, but rather to look at ways that existing D&D magic could be expanded to serve similar functions. The speaking stone "telegraph" is based on [I]whispering wind[/I], a spell that delivers a short message to a specific point. We have a slightly more efficient form of wand. Golems have been mass produced. But steam power, firearms, and similar things were consciously kept out of the setting. If you have a clear image of a fantasy setting with firearms, you could be thinking of Iron Kingdoms or even Pathfinder, which IIRC has a gunslinger. Again: I'm not trying to convince you Eberron is your thing - I'm sure you've seen enough of it to know if it's not. And I understand that what you're saying is that it doesn't matter if it's actually a golem if it [I]feels[/I] like a robot to you. But in particular, it's NOT a world of robot gunslingers, because the goal was always to explore the long-term evolution of magic - not to put magic and technology in the same world. [/QUOTE]
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