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<blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 6414053" data-attributes="member: 15800"><p>That's my default, as shown with Tiamat. However, when I converted the Savage Tide to Eberron I made Demogorgon a lesser entity who was free-roaming but bound to a demiplane in Khyber - essentially, one of the mightiest lieutenants of an Overlord, but not an Overlord himself. My reasoning for this is because, frankly, he's not tough enough. The Overlords are the equivalent of deities in other settings; when I statted them in 3.5, I made them the equivalent of Divine Rank 7 with 40-60 character levels. Given that Demon Princes weren't quite that tough - and given that he's much more active than the typical bound rajah - I went with the idea of him being a lieutenant who was never entirely bound, with his Abyss as a deep demiplane layer of Khyber. </p><p></p><p>Looking to Asmodeus, what I most liked about the approach in the article is that the idea that he is a completely new player on the scene. Tiamat, Demogorgon, anyone from the Age of Demons... they are OLD NEWS, and people know how they fought, what they did, etc. With Asmodeus, the idea was that even the Lords of Dust are saying "Wait, who is this now?" Tied to this, the idea is that he's using the lingering fear from the Last War to convince people to make pacts; "The world is a dangerous place. You can't trust your kings. But <em>I</em> can give you the power to defend yourself." So these covens are popping up, and nobody recognizes them or the powers they are using; you'd need to talk to an angel to have him say "Wait, that sounds like Asmodeus... but he should be gone forever."</p><p></p><p>The main thing is that given that most of the major threats are ancient, I like the idea of something new - and going to Baator itself, I like the image of a prison where the prisoners have ONLY JUST taken control, and where the hierarchy between the archdevils is still very open to debate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellcow, post: 6414053, member: 15800"] That's my default, as shown with Tiamat. However, when I converted the Savage Tide to Eberron I made Demogorgon a lesser entity who was free-roaming but bound to a demiplane in Khyber - essentially, one of the mightiest lieutenants of an Overlord, but not an Overlord himself. My reasoning for this is because, frankly, he's not tough enough. The Overlords are the equivalent of deities in other settings; when I statted them in 3.5, I made them the equivalent of Divine Rank 7 with 40-60 character levels. Given that Demon Princes weren't quite that tough - and given that he's much more active than the typical bound rajah - I went with the idea of him being a lieutenant who was never entirely bound, with his Abyss as a deep demiplane layer of Khyber. Looking to Asmodeus, what I most liked about the approach in the article is that the idea that he is a completely new player on the scene. Tiamat, Demogorgon, anyone from the Age of Demons... they are OLD NEWS, and people know how they fought, what they did, etc. With Asmodeus, the idea was that even the Lords of Dust are saying "Wait, who is this now?" Tied to this, the idea is that he's using the lingering fear from the Last War to convince people to make pacts; "The world is a dangerous place. You can't trust your kings. But [I]I[/I] can give you the power to defend yourself." So these covens are popping up, and nobody recognizes them or the powers they are using; you'd need to talk to an angel to have him say "Wait, that sounds like Asmodeus... but he should be gone forever." The main thing is that given that most of the major threats are ancient, I like the idea of something new - and going to Baator itself, I like the image of a prison where the prisoners have ONLY JUST taken control, and where the hierarchy between the archdevils is still very open to debate. [/QUOTE]
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