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<blockquote data-quote="DragonStryk72" data-source="post: 6026951" data-attributes="member: 6700939"><p>To my mind, the core problem was that they took all the Dungeons & Dragons parts out of D&D. Characters lost a lot of depth in 4e, which was exactly the opposite of the way it needed to go. There was almost no real chance of death for PCs unless you're just feeling vindictive as a GM, which removed all real tension to the combat.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, Pathfinder changed things almost completely. They made base classes like Fighter really interesting to take again, with archtypes that allowed for variant builds in every class, bringing back old creatures, and even some new ones. The Adventure Paths themselves were a marvel, a complete campaign in a box. The APs even came with Player Guides that gave the PCs reasons to be involved with the group and the campaign.</p><p></p><p>Paizo does exactly what a game company should do, they support their product with quality and care, while Wizards churns out books that are pretty blatantly there to try and separate you from your money with little real value.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DragonStryk72, post: 6026951, member: 6700939"] To my mind, the core problem was that they took all the Dungeons & Dragons parts out of D&D. Characters lost a lot of depth in 4e, which was exactly the opposite of the way it needed to go. There was almost no real chance of death for PCs unless you're just feeling vindictive as a GM, which removed all real tension to the combat. Meanwhile, Pathfinder changed things almost completely. They made base classes like Fighter really interesting to take again, with archtypes that allowed for variant builds in every class, bringing back old creatures, and even some new ones. The Adventure Paths themselves were a marvel, a complete campaign in a box. The APs even came with Player Guides that gave the PCs reasons to be involved with the group and the campaign. Paizo does exactly what a game company should do, they support their product with quality and care, while Wizards churns out books that are pretty blatantly there to try and separate you from your money with little real value. [/QUOTE]
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