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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7436409" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p> [MENTION=6880599]ClaytonCross[/MENTION], I'm going to have to say...no? I've played a LOT of RPG's over the years. Most of the longer ones tend to be Fantasy, followed by Gamma World (3rd Edition; I would have said 'Apocalyptic', but honestly, the only real Apocalyptic we play consistently...at least up until about a year ago...was 3rd edition Gamma World), then Super-Heroes. Everything else falls after that. Of the Fantasy, a LOT of it has been either 1e/Hackmaster, BECMI/DarkDungeons (<a href="https://darkdungeonsblog.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">https://darkdungeonsblog.wordpress.com/</a>), Powers & Perils (<a href="http://www.powersandperils.com" target="_blank">www.powersandperils.com</a>), or Dominion Rules (<a href="http://www.dominionrules.org" target="_blank">www.dominionrules.org</a>).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I've been trying to think back to almost 40 years of DM'ing some form of "D&D" and I think I can honestly say, only my first 5 to 10 years of DM'ing was 'stuff' a common motivator. After about a decade I sort of hit my stride/style for DM'ing and I think I've remained fairly consistent over the decades...with only a slight mellowing on the whole 'detailed rules' side of it all (old age and all that I guess! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> ).</p><p></p><p>Talking specifically about the last 15 to 20 years, I can tell you that my Players main "goal" and driving force behind their PC's is "Try not to die!". I'm what is termed, nowadays at least, a "Killer DM". My players also call me 'stingy on the side of treasure'. I attest affirmative to both those things. The highest level PC anyone has had in my 5e campaign(s) was: 7th level Goliath Barbarian, 5th level Tiefling Bard, 4th level Human Thief, 4th level Human Druid. After that, it's a handful of 3rds, about twice that in 2nd, and twice that again in 1st level characters. This is over about 4 years I guess? Whenever the Starter Set came out.</p><p></p><p>My point is...no, IME. If you present a game where other things simply ARE more important (survival; and that usually goes hand in hand with cautious play, development of NPC ties, and story-goals a Player develops based not on 'stuff to acquire'), then "getting tougher" is a nice sideline bonus. In my campaigns saving a town, country or entire world is simply not dependant on "level" or "power". My campaign (and DM'ing style) is most definitely an "outlier" of the modern RPG expectation of play. I get that. It's cool with me and my group.</p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 7436409, member: 45197"] Hiya! [MENTION=6880599]ClaytonCross[/MENTION], I'm going to have to say...no? I've played a LOT of RPG's over the years. Most of the longer ones tend to be Fantasy, followed by Gamma World (3rd Edition; I would have said 'Apocalyptic', but honestly, the only real Apocalyptic we play consistently...at least up until about a year ago...was 3rd edition Gamma World), then Super-Heroes. Everything else falls after that. Of the Fantasy, a LOT of it has been either 1e/Hackmaster, BECMI/DarkDungeons ([url]https://darkdungeonsblog.wordpress.com/[/url]), Powers & Perils ([url]www.powersandperils.com[/url]), or Dominion Rules ([url]www.dominionrules.org[/url]). Anyway, I've been trying to think back to almost 40 years of DM'ing some form of "D&D" and I think I can honestly say, only my first 5 to 10 years of DM'ing was 'stuff' a common motivator. After about a decade I sort of hit my stride/style for DM'ing and I think I've remained fairly consistent over the decades...with only a slight mellowing on the whole 'detailed rules' side of it all (old age and all that I guess! ;) ). Talking specifically about the last 15 to 20 years, I can tell you that my Players main "goal" and driving force behind their PC's is "Try not to die!". I'm what is termed, nowadays at least, a "Killer DM". My players also call me 'stingy on the side of treasure'. I attest affirmative to both those things. The highest level PC anyone has had in my 5e campaign(s) was: 7th level Goliath Barbarian, 5th level Tiefling Bard, 4th level Human Thief, 4th level Human Druid. After that, it's a handful of 3rds, about twice that in 2nd, and twice that again in 1st level characters. This is over about 4 years I guess? Whenever the Starter Set came out. My point is...no, IME. If you present a game where other things simply ARE more important (survival; and that usually goes hand in hand with cautious play, development of NPC ties, and story-goals a Player develops based not on 'stuff to acquire'), then "getting tougher" is a nice sideline bonus. In my campaigns saving a town, country or entire world is simply not dependant on "level" or "power". My campaign (and DM'ing style) is most definitely an "outlier" of the modern RPG expectation of play. I get that. It's cool with me and my group. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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