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<blockquote data-quote="JoeNotCharles" data-source="post: 4871928" data-attributes="member: 79945"><p>Holy @#$^#$ I hate stealth errata.</p><p></p><p>Ok, here's the situation with Grease:</p><p></p><p>There is no errata. The version in the Compendium is identical to the printed version, except instead of "You can make the following attack, using..." it says, "You can use the Grease Attack power, using..." Then it has a power header: "Grease Attack: At-Will + Arcane, Implement, Zone", followed by the exact same power as in the printed version, with the extra line, "Requirement: The Grease power must be active to use this power."</p><p></p><p>For Planar Gateway, exactly the same situation except the new power header says "Encounter". Which takes care of my problems with that one.</p><p></p><p>Illusory Wall has some minor wording differences, but the effect seems identical, except the Compendium version says "Sustain Minor: You can sustain this power until the end of the encounter," while AP just says, "The wall persists."</p><p></p><p>I haven't checked if any other powers are different, and I'm not going to. I think we should clarify in the charter (if it's not clear already) that the official versions are the ones in the published books, with the published errata, not whatever the Compendium happens to say this week. (Which means character judges must be sure to check the books and not the compendium wherever possible.)</p><p></p><p>Also, after the wall I agree that we shouldn't make a ruling on slides in general - too many cases we'd need to consider.</p><p></p><p>So if I was going to propose AP (which I'm not, because I want to vote) I'd add these alterations:</p><p></p><p>As AP is accepted, remove the Illusions article, since it's been overridden.</p><p></p><p>Grease: change Hit to "...slide the target 2 squares and knock it prone." Add "Special: Forced movement caused by this power does not trigger this power again."</p><p></p><p>Illusory Wall: change "on its current turn, but it can try again on later turns" to "until it is attacked again and missed".</p><p></p><p>Planar Gateway: Add "Once per encounter" before "You may make the following attack..."</p><p></p><p>This hasn't officially been proposed yet, right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoeNotCharles, post: 4871928, member: 79945"] Holy @#$^#$ I hate stealth errata. Ok, here's the situation with Grease: There is no errata. The version in the Compendium is identical to the printed version, except instead of "You can make the following attack, using..." it says, "You can use the Grease Attack power, using..." Then it has a power header: "Grease Attack: At-Will + Arcane, Implement, Zone", followed by the exact same power as in the printed version, with the extra line, "Requirement: The Grease power must be active to use this power." For Planar Gateway, exactly the same situation except the new power header says "Encounter". Which takes care of my problems with that one. Illusory Wall has some minor wording differences, but the effect seems identical, except the Compendium version says "Sustain Minor: You can sustain this power until the end of the encounter," while AP just says, "The wall persists." I haven't checked if any other powers are different, and I'm not going to. I think we should clarify in the charter (if it's not clear already) that the official versions are the ones in the published books, with the published errata, not whatever the Compendium happens to say this week. (Which means character judges must be sure to check the books and not the compendium wherever possible.) Also, after the wall I agree that we shouldn't make a ruling on slides in general - too many cases we'd need to consider. So if I was going to propose AP (which I'm not, because I want to vote) I'd add these alterations: As AP is accepted, remove the Illusions article, since it's been overridden. Grease: change Hit to "...slide the target 2 squares and knock it prone." Add "Special: Forced movement caused by this power does not trigger this power again." Illusory Wall: change "on its current turn, but it can try again on later turns" to "until it is attacked again and missed". Planar Gateway: Add "Once per encounter" before "You may make the following attack..." This hasn't officially been proposed yet, right? [/QUOTE]
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