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<blockquote data-quote="Satin Knights" data-source="post: 6009204" data-attributes="member: 6666968"><p>Archetypes should always be a little weaker than the general class, but having the change in focus provide benefits in one concentrated area. Most summoners don't dip into their SLA castings much. So, Qik's method gains too much for weaker SLAs that are hardly used. The eidolon and summoner combined are significantly stronger when they ignore the SLAs.</p><p></p><p>SK's method puts the archetype squarely in the category of "don't bother, unless you really want to cast SNA instead of SM." If a summoned owlbear appears, people expect it to only have to elude it for a minute while hunting for the druid to deal with. Having it stick around for 10 minutes on its rampage is the advantageous surprise the archetype has going for it. When you get into the levels where you are getting giants, it gets real interesting. SM spells at that level are simply dealt with via blanket dismissals/banishments of those that are outsiders.</p><p></p><p>In other words, if the significant change of the archetype is not the focus of the archetype, it should be back to the drawing board.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Satin Knights, post: 6009204, member: 6666968"] Archetypes should always be a little weaker than the general class, but having the change in focus provide benefits in one concentrated area. Most summoners don't dip into their SLA castings much. So, Qik's method gains too much for weaker SLAs that are hardly used. The eidolon and summoner combined are significantly stronger when they ignore the SLAs. SK's method puts the archetype squarely in the category of "don't bother, unless you really want to cast SNA instead of SM." If a summoned owlbear appears, people expect it to only have to elude it for a minute while hunting for the druid to deal with. Having it stick around for 10 minutes on its rampage is the advantageous surprise the archetype has going for it. When you get into the levels where you are getting giants, it gets real interesting. SM spells at that level are simply dealt with via blanket dismissals/banishments of those that are outsiders. In other words, if the significant change of the archetype is not the focus of the archetype, it should be back to the drawing board. [/QUOTE]
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