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<blockquote data-quote="Atriden" data-source="post: 4966706" data-attributes="member: 80821"><p>Wow, I didn't expect so much fuss over my overhaul, but then again it is understandable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have found the thread <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/251896-proposal-retraining-new-material-5.html" target="_blank">here</a> and here is a reference to the three judges that approved of overhaul at all levels: </p><p>Proposal: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4841274-post90.html" target="_blank">here</a></p><p>Approval: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4854027-post97.html" target="_blank">1</a> , <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4854044-post98.html" target="_blank">2</a> , <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4854084-post99.html" target="_blank">3</a></p><p></p><p>Even though the overhaul can be made regardless of level, the issue is still at hand since the changes are bigger then the system allows.</p><p></p><p>I understand what you mean, but I still don't think its the case in this situation. Much of the character concept is still intact. I could understand the argument if I were to change Atreus from a Rogue to a barbarian, something so extreme that the character concept would be completely ruined. </p><p>And, this is fairly early in my characters career, he is still level 2 (almost level 3) which makes the change less dramatic than if he did it at level 20.</p><p>The race issue, well as renau1g said, he is still part human and so I wouldn't say it is completely out of line, like changing from human to Kenku.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. Thanks for backing me up <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Well, I would say that in my case my characters background has much to do with how he is, his skills and line of trade. From a very young age, he has been trained in assassination, to infiltrate others and most importantly, survive the cruel world. With the change, he goes is own way's, adapting new powers and skills so that he might better counter any threat and pursue his ultimate goal in life, which is to be a strong as possible and return to the kingdom to rid the world of the wretched souls whom framed him and his master. Being able to do so has a price and that price is that he must give away some of his humanity in order to return to the world of the living and finish what he had begun.</p><p></p><p>If you want to get to know me, please feel free to do so. I am currently in league with the Punishment Patrol in Covaithe's adventure " The Closed Eye " - <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/241790-closed-eye-dm-halford-judge-garyh-19.html" target="_blank">Part 1</a>(my entry into the game) and <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/259240-closed-eye-part-ii-dm-covaithe-judge-garyh.html" target="_blank">Part 2</a>. </p><p></p><p>You will learn I am not such a bad guy ... well Atreus might be <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>And, I am also in stringbeans creepy adventure " Enemy among us " with my earth genasi Atlas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atriden, post: 4966706, member: 80821"] Wow, I didn't expect so much fuss over my overhaul, but then again it is understandable. I have found the thread [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/251896-proposal-retraining-new-material-5.html"]here[/URL] and here is a reference to the three judges that approved of overhaul at all levels: Proposal: [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4841274-post90.html"]here[/URL] Approval: [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4854027-post97.html"]1[/URL] , [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4854044-post98.html"]2[/URL] , [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4854084-post99.html"]3[/URL] Even though the overhaul can be made regardless of level, the issue is still at hand since the changes are bigger then the system allows. I understand what you mean, but I still don't think its the case in this situation. Much of the character concept is still intact. I could understand the argument if I were to change Atreus from a Rogue to a barbarian, something so extreme that the character concept would be completely ruined. And, this is fairly early in my characters career, he is still level 2 (almost level 3) which makes the change less dramatic than if he did it at level 20. The race issue, well as renau1g said, he is still part human and so I wouldn't say it is completely out of line, like changing from human to Kenku. Exactly. Thanks for backing me up :) Well, I would say that in my case my characters background has much to do with how he is, his skills and line of trade. From a very young age, he has been trained in assassination, to infiltrate others and most importantly, survive the cruel world. With the change, he goes is own way's, adapting new powers and skills so that he might better counter any threat and pursue his ultimate goal in life, which is to be a strong as possible and return to the kingdom to rid the world of the wretched souls whom framed him and his master. Being able to do so has a price and that price is that he must give away some of his humanity in order to return to the world of the living and finish what he had begun. If you want to get to know me, please feel free to do so. I am currently in league with the Punishment Patrol in Covaithe's adventure " The Closed Eye " - [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/241790-closed-eye-dm-halford-judge-garyh-19.html"]Part 1[/URL](my entry into the game) and [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/living-4th-edition/259240-closed-eye-part-ii-dm-covaithe-judge-garyh.html"]Part 2[/URL]. You will learn I am not such a bad guy ... well Atreus might be ;) And, I am also in stringbeans creepy adventure " Enemy among us " with my earth genasi Atlas. [/QUOTE]
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