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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5129247" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I don't think we should change the rules just to allow this one feat entry into LEB.</p><p></p><p>If one looks at Intimidate in combat, best case at level one is generally +9 (18 Cha PC) Intimidate vs. 21 to 24 for same level or vs. 25 to 28 for n+4 foe.</p><p></p><p>That's a 10% to 45% chance of success. So that is probably why you don't see it in your games. Most PCs cannot get a decent chance of success if high Cha PCs have a slim chance like this.</p><p></p><p>But once someone adds two feats, for example this one and Skill Focus Intimidate, then it becomes a +15 equivalent or 40% to 75% per foe. Then suddenly, it's more than viable. It's basically game breaking at that point.</p><p></p><p>And a skill challenge then becomes 100% for non-hostile NPCs when the NPC has a Will of 14 and the PC has +15 to the skill.</p><p></p><p>This feat should just flat out not exist and with that in mind, we shouldn't change the Intimidate combat rules, just to allow this feat out of combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5129247, member: 2011"] I don't think we should change the rules just to allow this one feat entry into LEB. If one looks at Intimidate in combat, best case at level one is generally +9 (18 Cha PC) Intimidate vs. 21 to 24 for same level or vs. 25 to 28 for n+4 foe. That's a 10% to 45% chance of success. So that is probably why you don't see it in your games. Most PCs cannot get a decent chance of success if high Cha PCs have a slim chance like this. But once someone adds two feats, for example this one and Skill Focus Intimidate, then it becomes a +15 equivalent or 40% to 75% per foe. Then suddenly, it's more than viable. It's basically game breaking at that point. And a skill challenge then becomes 100% for non-hostile NPCs when the NPC has a Will of 14 and the PC has +15 to the skill. This feat should just flat out not exist and with that in mind, we shouldn't change the Intimidate combat rules, just to allow this feat out of combat. [/QUOTE]
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