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<blockquote data-quote="renau1g" data-source="post: 5130408" data-attributes="member: 54810"><p>I don't really find intimidate to be overly powerful, but then I wouldn't allow Orcus to be intimidated by a lowly mortal. The raging ogre barbarian, also not likely to fall victim to it. Now the weasly kobold sneak-thief? Sure, but that's in character for it. I might even give a bonus to the roll. </p><p></p><p>As for skilll challenges, a lot of them can't use intimidate for their rolls as it triggers an auto-failure. My Crimelord game had this when dealing with the dwarven king, if they tried intimidate, not only was it an auto-fail, but that also triggered a penalty to all future checks towards him. </p><p></p><p>There are a lot of things better than skill focus', including all the dragonmark feats, MC feats (that grant +5 on the check), etc. Also, if a PC drops at least 1/2 their feats (if human) or 2/3's if not, on being really good at being scary, they're paying a huge combat efficiency price. </p><p></p><p>I have DM'd many games here and have yet to see 1 PC attempt to use intimidate rules to stop an enemy. Tamarand's got a fairly good Intimidate check (+13), but I've never used it myself. </p><p></p><p>Also, best case at level 1 would actually be +15 (5 Cha, 5 trained, 2 racial, 3 skill focus) so vs. Will of 21-24 he'll succeed on 6-9, already well over 50% of the time without this feat. Heck even the n+4 one he'll succeed on a 10-13 roll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="renau1g, post: 5130408, member: 54810"] I don't really find intimidate to be overly powerful, but then I wouldn't allow Orcus to be intimidated by a lowly mortal. The raging ogre barbarian, also not likely to fall victim to it. Now the weasly kobold sneak-thief? Sure, but that's in character for it. I might even give a bonus to the roll. As for skilll challenges, a lot of them can't use intimidate for their rolls as it triggers an auto-failure. My Crimelord game had this when dealing with the dwarven king, if they tried intimidate, not only was it an auto-fail, but that also triggered a penalty to all future checks towards him. There are a lot of things better than skill focus', including all the dragonmark feats, MC feats (that grant +5 on the check), etc. Also, if a PC drops at least 1/2 their feats (if human) or 2/3's if not, on being really good at being scary, they're paying a huge combat efficiency price. I have DM'd many games here and have yet to see 1 PC attempt to use intimidate rules to stop an enemy. Tamarand's got a fairly good Intimidate check (+13), but I've never used it myself. Also, best case at level 1 would actually be +15 (5 Cha, 5 trained, 2 racial, 3 skill focus) so vs. Will of 21-24 he'll succeed on 6-9, already well over 50% of the time without this feat. Heck even the n+4 one he'll succeed on a 10-13 roll. [/QUOTE]
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