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<blockquote data-quote="ryryguy" data-source="post: 4905440" data-attributes="member: 64945"><p>Ok, just wanted to get this out there for discussion before they are automatically adopted under the new proposal system.</p><p></p><p>I don't think it would be a horrible disaster if these feats did come in. However, I personally wouldn't mind seeing them excluded from L4W, for a couple of reasons.</p><p></p><p>First, they just feel too Eberron-specific to me in terms of flavor. I don't like the marks without the Houses, and the Prophecy, and the designated races. If someone comes up with some good story and setting bits to slot them into L4W, that would certainly help to alleviate this. And I know a couple of people have been working on just that. But just as a matter of personal taste, I'd just as soon keep them Eberron because I love how they fit there, and I fear an L4W version just would not feel right.</p><p></p><p>Second, they tend to be a bit more powerful than lots of other feats. Not earthshatteringly, game breakingly powerful by any means. And I understand that D&D is not a socialist feat paradise where all feats must be exactly equal. But as a group the dragonmarks are definitely on the upper end of things. They may not quite be "must-haves", but some of them seem like they render some standard feats obsolete. Who would take Linguist or Ritual Casting over Mark of Scribing? Who would take Skill Focus (Perception) over Mark of Sentinel? In Eberron, being dragonmarked carries a lot of "story baggage", so it's not such a no-brainer. Again, maybe some great L4W version could do the same, but it seems like a hard task.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ryryguy, post: 4905440, member: 64945"] Ok, just wanted to get this out there for discussion before they are automatically adopted under the new proposal system. I don't think it would be a horrible disaster if these feats did come in. However, I personally wouldn't mind seeing them excluded from L4W, for a couple of reasons. First, they just feel too Eberron-specific to me in terms of flavor. I don't like the marks without the Houses, and the Prophecy, and the designated races. If someone comes up with some good story and setting bits to slot them into L4W, that would certainly help to alleviate this. And I know a couple of people have been working on just that. But just as a matter of personal taste, I'd just as soon keep them Eberron because I love how they fit there, and I fear an L4W version just would not feel right. Second, they tend to be a bit more powerful than lots of other feats. Not earthshatteringly, game breakingly powerful by any means. And I understand that D&D is not a socialist feat paradise where all feats must be exactly equal. But as a group the dragonmarks are definitely on the upper end of things. They may not quite be "must-haves", but some of them seem like they render some standard feats obsolete. Who would take Linguist or Ritual Casting over Mark of Scribing? Who would take Skill Focus (Perception) over Mark of Sentinel? In Eberron, being dragonmarked carries a lot of "story baggage", so it's not such a no-brainer. Again, maybe some great L4W version could do the same, but it seems like a hard task. [/QUOTE]
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