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<blockquote data-quote="Trouvere" data-source="post: 4967618" data-attributes="member: 37250"><p>I'm still interested!</p><p></p><p>I held off on posting because I was considering putting together some sort of table showing the XP record of my PCs. But, oh well. I cannot be bothered following all the links.</p><p></p><p>I'd be against the proposal.</p><p></p><p>Now, I know it can take a very long time for PCs to level and it seems like an eternity to reach 6th or 8th or whenever you can qualify for a PrC. Two of my characters have reached 5th level in 2.5 years. The other is at 3rd after 1.5 years. Our highest level PC, Rinaldo, has reached 12th in 6 years. It seems 10 years to take a PC from 1st to 20th is about what we can expect. Okay, that's a fair chunk of a lifetime.</p><p></p><p>However, in standard play, a party is supposed to level after every 13 encounters, no? In LEW PbP, assuming time XP awarded is roughly equal to game XP, that might be 6 encounters. In practice, I seem to have levelled faster than that, after maybe 3 or 4 encounters, at most.</p><p></p><p>Keldar went from 3rd to 4th as a result of one single fight with pirates which, unfortunately, went on long enough that we lost two players (they were losing interest anyway). He reached 5th after one-and-a-bit combat encounters and a lot of talking to people. He didn't in fact use any of the abilities he'd acquired at 4th before he reached 5th.</p><p></p><p>Conuld reached 2nd in a vignette, casting one Color Spray and some cantrips. He reached 3rd after casting Expeditious Retreat and Grease. 4th required one Scorching Ray that missed and Enlarge Person (and an awful lot of behind the scenes daily Endure Elements). 5th needed nothing more than Message and Prestidigitation. That's a lot of levelling for casting less than one day's full load-out of spells. He had 3rd level spells before he'd cast more than one 2nd level.</p><p></p><p>Now, I'm definitely not denigrating those games. They were/are fun (when they were moving, at least). But at each individual level, with very few exceptions, I really don't feel as though my characters have <em>done</em> anything very much to deserve their levelling.</p><p></p><p>We spend 6 months or a year at a particular level - but in that time, we manage 3 encounters. We don't really get very much in-game time to get used to a level before the next one pops up, even if we've got a little greyer in the real world.</p><p></p><p>At least in my case, I don't really see the attraction of racing to 20th level just for the sake of it. The fun is in the journey there. Otherwise, I could just play a game that starts at 20th. Yes, Keldar's build comes together, such as it is, around 9th level. But I only get to play him once... I don't want to skip 5th through 8th. Yes, Conuld (if I keep playing him at all) will go for both Loremaster and Archmage, but I don't want to fast-forward to 8th and 14th levels, just because they're more landmark-y than the levels in between.</p><p></p><p>If encounter XP were doubled, well... it would feel even more as though they were just automatically levelling without earning it at all.</p><p></p><p>Basically, if people want to level faster, then, for goodness' sake, let's start<em> posting</em> again!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trouvere, post: 4967618, member: 37250"] I'm still interested! I held off on posting because I was considering putting together some sort of table showing the XP record of my PCs. But, oh well. I cannot be bothered following all the links. I'd be against the proposal. Now, I know it can take a very long time for PCs to level and it seems like an eternity to reach 6th or 8th or whenever you can qualify for a PrC. Two of my characters have reached 5th level in 2.5 years. The other is at 3rd after 1.5 years. Our highest level PC, Rinaldo, has reached 12th in 6 years. It seems 10 years to take a PC from 1st to 20th is about what we can expect. Okay, that's a fair chunk of a lifetime. However, in standard play, a party is supposed to level after every 13 encounters, no? In LEW PbP, assuming time XP awarded is roughly equal to game XP, that might be 6 encounters. In practice, I seem to have levelled faster than that, after maybe 3 or 4 encounters, at most. Keldar went from 3rd to 4th as a result of one single fight with pirates which, unfortunately, went on long enough that we lost two players (they were losing interest anyway). He reached 5th after one-and-a-bit combat encounters and a lot of talking to people. He didn't in fact use any of the abilities he'd acquired at 4th before he reached 5th. Conuld reached 2nd in a vignette, casting one Color Spray and some cantrips. He reached 3rd after casting Expeditious Retreat and Grease. 4th required one Scorching Ray that missed and Enlarge Person (and an awful lot of behind the scenes daily Endure Elements). 5th needed nothing more than Message and Prestidigitation. That's a lot of levelling for casting less than one day's full load-out of spells. He had 3rd level spells before he'd cast more than one 2nd level. Now, I'm definitely not denigrating those games. They were/are fun (when they were moving, at least). But at each individual level, with very few exceptions, I really don't feel as though my characters have [I]done[/I] anything very much to deserve their levelling. We spend 6 months or a year at a particular level - but in that time, we manage 3 encounters. We don't really get very much in-game time to get used to a level before the next one pops up, even if we've got a little greyer in the real world. At least in my case, I don't really see the attraction of racing to 20th level just for the sake of it. The fun is in the journey there. Otherwise, I could just play a game that starts at 20th. Yes, Keldar's build comes together, such as it is, around 9th level. But I only get to play him once... I don't want to skip 5th through 8th. Yes, Conuld (if I keep playing him at all) will go for both Loremaster and Archmage, but I don't want to fast-forward to 8th and 14th levels, just because they're more landmark-y than the levels in between. If encounter XP were doubled, well... it would feel even more as though they were just automatically levelling without earning it at all. Basically, if people want to level faster, then, for goodness' sake, let's start[I] posting[/I] again! [/QUOTE]
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