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<blockquote data-quote="TwoHeadsBarking" data-source="post: 4802163" data-attributes="member: 82251"><p>I think the post Oni linked clears it up pretty well. But maybe we should be more concerned with how we should balance it than arguing over what it does.</p><p></p><p>Argh, that was worded terribly. What I'm trying to say is that there are two possibilities (well, there are more, but let's say there are only two):</p><p></p><p>1. RAW, it gives four attacks and is overpowered. If dropping it down to three balances it, let's drop it down to three.</p><p></p><p>2. RAW, it gives three attacks and is balanced.</p><p></p><p>So we'll say RoB gives a max of three attacks. Done and done.</p><p></p><p>Granted, this assumes RoB is balanced with three attacks. On the one hand, that's pretty good. To my untrained eye, it looks like the best lvl 3 fighter power in the PHB, especially since it can target multiple foes or focus on one unlucky chump. On the other, it requires sub-optimal stats and weapon choices. And with three attacks, I wouldn't say it's <em>that</em> much better than the others, although static bonuses could later show that I don't know what I'm talking about. Also, if you drop it down any further it becomes pretty lackluster.</p><p></p><p>Back to the Bloodiron weapons, I think the issue (well, my issue) is that they are (almost) strictly better than Vicious ones. I don't know if the ability is overpowered but I feel a +3 [enhancement] weapon should be roughly equal to any other +3 [enhancement] weapon. Maybe Bloodiron should have a smaller crit die.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwoHeadsBarking, post: 4802163, member: 82251"] I think the post Oni linked clears it up pretty well. But maybe we should be more concerned with how we should balance it than arguing over what it does. Argh, that was worded terribly. What I'm trying to say is that there are two possibilities (well, there are more, but let's say there are only two): 1. RAW, it gives four attacks and is overpowered. If dropping it down to three balances it, let's drop it down to three. 2. RAW, it gives three attacks and is balanced. So we'll say RoB gives a max of three attacks. Done and done. Granted, this assumes RoB is balanced with three attacks. On the one hand, that's pretty good. To my untrained eye, it looks like the best lvl 3 fighter power in the PHB, especially since it can target multiple foes or focus on one unlucky chump. On the other, it requires sub-optimal stats and weapon choices. And with three attacks, I wouldn't say it's [I]that[/I] much better than the others, although static bonuses could later show that I don't know what I'm talking about. Also, if you drop it down any further it becomes pretty lackluster. Back to the Bloodiron weapons, I think the issue (well, my issue) is that they are (almost) strictly better than Vicious ones. I don't know if the ability is overpowered but I feel a +3 [enhancement] weapon should be roughly equal to any other +3 [enhancement] weapon. Maybe Bloodiron should have a smaller crit die. [/QUOTE]
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