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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6284060" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Can you please explain the similarities. I linked to two posts setting out actual play examples. Those two posts don't exhaust either arc of play, but even within their confined scope I'd be interested to learn what the similiarities are.</p><p></p><p>I also mentioned two novels - LotR and The Quiet American - both of which concern freeing a land/people from a malevolent infuence. In what way do they resemble one another in structure?</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, what role does structure play in the overall experience of a story, if plot elements and themes are different?</p><p></p><p>Was [MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] even talking about my posts, or about your paraphrase?</p><p></p><p>LotR involves multiple physical confrontations with powerful enemies in single combat (the Witch King, the Balrog, Shelob, to name a few). And I can assure you that The Quiet American most definitely involves physical confronation with a particular individual as its dramatic climax.</p><p></p><p>And? How does this prove any strong resemblance of plot or of structure? Superheores solve problems by direct application of violence. That doesn't make all superheroic comics, or movies, identical. (Contrast, say, the Avengers with X-Men 2.)</p><p></p><p>I'm also curious as to which RPGs you have in mind? Not all are based on adventure fiction. Even in D&D it is not unheard of to resolve conflicts by way of negotiation. (For instance, that is how the PCs in my 4e game escaped the Shrine of the Kuo-toa and dealt with Blibdoolpoolp. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?313724-Actual-play-the-PCs-successfully-negotiated-with-Kas" target="_blank">It is also how they survived their encounter with Kas.</a>)</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm losing track of whose game you're describing. I also don't really see what bearing this has on the pros and cons of epic level play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6284060, member: 42582"] Can you please explain the similarities. I linked to two posts setting out actual play examples. Those two posts don't exhaust either arc of play, but even within their confined scope I'd be interested to learn what the similiarities are. I also mentioned two novels - LotR and The Quiet American - both of which concern freeing a land/people from a malevolent infuence. In what way do they resemble one another in structure? Furthermore, what role does structure play in the overall experience of a story, if plot elements and themes are different? Was [MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION] even talking about my posts, or about your paraphrase? LotR involves multiple physical confrontations with powerful enemies in single combat (the Witch King, the Balrog, Shelob, to name a few). And I can assure you that The Quiet American most definitely involves physical confronation with a particular individual as its dramatic climax. And? How does this prove any strong resemblance of plot or of structure? Superheores solve problems by direct application of violence. That doesn't make all superheroic comics, or movies, identical. (Contrast, say, the Avengers with X-Men 2.) I'm also curious as to which RPGs you have in mind? Not all are based on adventure fiction. Even in D&D it is not unheard of to resolve conflicts by way of negotiation. (For instance, that is how the PCs in my 4e game escaped the Shrine of the Kuo-toa and dealt with Blibdoolpoolp. [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?313724-Actual-play-the-PCs-successfully-negotiated-with-Kas]It is also how they survived their encounter with Kas.[/url]) I'm losing track of whose game you're describing. I also don't really see what bearing this has on the pros and cons of epic level play. [/QUOTE]
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