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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6284087" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>No. I used a turn of phrase to illustrate the change in stakes that I regard as typical of the transition between tiers.</p><p></p><p>I could just as easily describe the defeat of Torog as <em>unleashing the elemental chaos upon the world</em>; or <em>releasing the primordials from their chains</em>. I could just as easily describe defeating the baron's evil advisor as <em>defeating the PCs' nemesis of over 10 levels</em>.</p><p></p><p> [MENTION=6681948]N'raac[/MENTION] decided to treat my turn of phrase as a schema.</p><p></p><p>I personally don't see the connection between epic fiction and such metagame matters as changing the rules of the game system. I also personally don't see why paragon tier campaigning must involve the abandonment of personal involvement. In the Earthsea trilogy Ged is a personal participant in each adventure. That does not mean that the fight with the Kargs in his village, the struggle with the Nameless Ones in Atuan, and the struggle to leave the dry lands with no magic to aid him, are all heroic tier.</p><p></p><p>A preference for national strategy over personal tactics as the focus of "serious" play strikes me as having little to do with the issue of tier. Likewise "diplomacy and ethics" - there is no reason why a low-level game cannot be framed in such terms.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6284087, member: 42582"] No. I used a turn of phrase to illustrate the change in stakes that I regard as typical of the transition between tiers. I could just as easily describe the defeat of Torog as [I]unleashing the elemental chaos upon the world[/I]; or [I]releasing the primordials from their chains[/I]. I could just as easily describe defeating the baron's evil advisor as [I]defeating the PCs' nemesis of over 10 levels[/I]. [MENTION=6681948]N'raac[/MENTION] decided to treat my turn of phrase as a schema. I personally don't see the connection between epic fiction and such metagame matters as changing the rules of the game system. I also personally don't see why paragon tier campaigning must involve the abandonment of personal involvement. In the Earthsea trilogy Ged is a personal participant in each adventure. That does not mean that the fight with the Kargs in his village, the struggle with the Nameless Ones in Atuan, and the struggle to leave the dry lands with no magic to aid him, are all heroic tier. A preference for national strategy over personal tactics as the focus of "serious" play strikes me as having little to do with the issue of tier. Likewise "diplomacy and ethics" - there is no reason why a low-level game cannot be framed in such terms. [/QUOTE]
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