Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Prose, Terminology, Fluff, & Presentation: Spreadsheets or Haiku?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Fallstorm" data-source="post: 5901805" data-attributes="member: 55683"><p>Has pathfinder out selling DnD really been confirmed such as annual sales of DnD for X time period compared to what Paizo earned?</p><p> </p><p>1. I know that for a large amount of time DnD wasn't really producing that many books for DnD for example I think early this year they producted the new DMG screen and then some monthsbefore an actual rules supplement (I think Heroes of Shadow maybe??) dropped but I remember here was a stretch of time when 4E production of rules books was low? So was Pathfinder outselling during this time? If so I can understand why?</p><p> </p><p>2. Does this Pathfinder "out saling" DND include things like he money WOTC makes from DnDI subscriptions, the card packs,etc which are also part of the DnD franchise?</p><p> </p><p>3. People keep harping on 5E coming out so soon. Let's examine the facts;</p><p>DnD 5E will drop in 2013. So we have:</p><p> </p><p>DnD 1E 1978-1989</p><p>DnD 2E 1989-2000</p><p>DnD 3E: 2000-2003</p><p>DnD 3.5-2003-2008</p><p>4E-2008-2013</p><p> </p><p>So DnD 4E will have lasted approximately 5 years exactly as long as DnD 3.5,</p><p>and before we say there was little difference between 3rd edition and 3.5 it was enough of difference between the two that unlike 4E and essentials splat books had to be redone, etc to make sense of the classes and prestige classes unlike 4E and essentials which can be played simultaneously.</p><p> </p><p>So, DnD 4E existed for about as long as it was supposed to exist. I think I recall reading somewhere (on Enworld in fact) from one former WOTC game designer that most game companies now release a new edition of their RPG every 4-5 years because the market has shone gamers will buy the product in that time frame. So, in fact, even if DnD Next is phenomenal success I suspect there will be some kind of revamping to it within 5 years or so because that is the market standard it seems.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fallstorm, post: 5901805, member: 55683"] Has pathfinder out selling DnD really been confirmed such as annual sales of DnD for X time period compared to what Paizo earned? 1. I know that for a large amount of time DnD wasn't really producing that many books for DnD for example I think early this year they producted the new DMG screen and then some monthsbefore an actual rules supplement (I think Heroes of Shadow maybe??) dropped but I remember here was a stretch of time when 4E production of rules books was low? So was Pathfinder outselling during this time? If so I can understand why? 2. Does this Pathfinder "out saling" DND include things like he money WOTC makes from DnDI subscriptions, the card packs,etc which are also part of the DnD franchise? 3. People keep harping on 5E coming out so soon. Let's examine the facts; DnD 5E will drop in 2013. So we have: DnD 1E 1978-1989 DnD 2E 1989-2000 DnD 3E: 2000-2003 DnD 3.5-2003-2008 4E-2008-2013 So DnD 4E will have lasted approximately 5 years exactly as long as DnD 3.5, and before we say there was little difference between 3rd edition and 3.5 it was enough of difference between the two that unlike 4E and essentials splat books had to be redone, etc to make sense of the classes and prestige classes unlike 4E and essentials which can be played simultaneously. So, DnD 4E existed for about as long as it was supposed to exist. I think I recall reading somewhere (on Enworld in fact) from one former WOTC game designer that most game companies now release a new edition of their RPG every 4-5 years because the market has shone gamers will buy the product in that time frame. So, in fact, even if DnD Next is phenomenal success I suspect there will be some kind of revamping to it within 5 years or so because that is the market standard it seems. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Prose, Terminology, Fluff, & Presentation: Spreadsheets or Haiku?
Top