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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 5901833" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>He was very explicit when you asked him to be. He even said, perhaps jokingly, 3.75 paragraphs as the ideal length of a spell description. </p><p></p><p>I don't have an issue with you raising questions about the number of spells and their length due to page count considerations ( obviously i disagree with your conclusions but the question is fair). But insisting that Morrus is being at all unclear or moving goal posts seems a bit odd to me.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what you are implying about edits. The only time I have edited my posts was moments after making them to add points of clarification (largely because there is a pattern of holding people to every single word they type on this thread). </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I never accused you of failing to pay attention. I said if one pays attention then their critique of the game is clear. </p><p></p><p>I do listen to the other side. in fact I think I make a point of telling them they have every right to their preference and simply say where I disagree. I understand what you want and think what you want is fair. But it isn't what I want. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then you haven't been paying attention to my posts. i am a 2e fan. Have made a point of using 2e as a model multiple times here. 3e I can live with am not in love with. I want prose that reads like the 2e books. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a lot in here and I am not going to touch the cook comment or legends and lore. But on the subject of vancian. I get that some people don't like it. I don't think you an use a wotc forum poll as a good gauge because most of the members probably play 4e. If i had to guess I would say it is probably 30 % against vancian 70% for right now. Bt that is just a guess. That does mean to keep the thirty percent you need an alternative. But it also means vancian is quite popular and regarded by many as a D&D staple. Personally I would like to see the old vancian spell entries back in the book. Bt I don't know the best solution around the split. Seems pretty challenging to me to satisfy both camps so I won't hold WOTC's decision against them. All I can do is say what the game needs to look like for me to be interested in buying it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 5901833, member: 85555"] He was very explicit when you asked him to be. He even said, perhaps jokingly, 3.75 paragraphs as the ideal length of a spell description. I don't have an issue with you raising questions about the number of spells and their length due to page count considerations ( obviously i disagree with your conclusions but the question is fair). But insisting that Morrus is being at all unclear or moving goal posts seems a bit odd to me. I don't know what you are implying about edits. The only time I have edited my posts was moments after making them to add points of clarification (largely because there is a pattern of holding people to every single word they type on this thread). I never accused you of failing to pay attention. I said if one pays attention then their critique of the game is clear. I do listen to the other side. in fact I think I make a point of telling them they have every right to their preference and simply say where I disagree. I understand what you want and think what you want is fair. But it isn't what I want. Then you haven't been paying attention to my posts. i am a 2e fan. Have made a point of using 2e as a model multiple times here. 3e I can live with am not in love with. I want prose that reads like the 2e books. There is a lot in here and I am not going to touch the cook comment or legends and lore. But on the subject of vancian. I get that some people don't like it. I don't think you an use a wotc forum poll as a good gauge because most of the members probably play 4e. If i had to guess I would say it is probably 30 % against vancian 70% for right now. Bt that is just a guess. That does mean to keep the thirty percent you need an alternative. But it also means vancian is quite popular and regarded by many as a D&D staple. Personally I would like to see the old vancian spell entries back in the book. Bt I don't know the best solution around the split. Seems pretty challenging to me to satisfy both camps so I won't hold WOTC's decision against them. All I can do is say what the game needs to look like for me to be interested in buying it. [/QUOTE]
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