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<blockquote data-quote="Fallstorm" data-source="post: 5901866" data-attributes="member: 55683"><p>Bedrock,</p><p> </p><p>Morrus, has not stated how long a spell description should be. Is it a few sentences plus some mechanics like he originally told me or is it the 3 paragraphs for a fireball that he agreed with you on? Would he be happy with a 3 paragraph hard cap on spells? I get he prefers prose to stat blocks. I understand that, but that is hardly specific.</p><p> </p><p>On the success of 3.5 vs. 4E and DnD Next….Well, WOTC (I believe specifically Andy Collin and Mike Mearls) when 3.5 was released talking about why it was needed and how certain spells like Haste had to be revamped because casting two spells in a round had a much bigger impact than a fighter getting an extra swing so that doesn’t sound too planned to me, but as you stated this you are not a WOTC insider and neither am I, so this is turning into a who killed Jimmy Hoffa argument, and as with all those arguments only the people in the know know and since we are not in the know the argument is fruitless.</p><p> </p><p>That being said, and to turn the discussion fruitful I am a long time gamer who is firmly in the 4E camp and you are a long time gamer firmly in the 1E/2E camp. Klaus gave an example of what he felt a spell description in DnD Next should be like. Myself as a 4E fans was satisfied with it. How about you? As a 1E/2E fan if you opened DnD Next and saw spells laid out as Klaus did his version of Sleep would it be enough for you to give the game a chance?</p><p> </p><p>Now, as far as Vancian magic, I will actually concede with you that a poll on WOTC website is biased because it contains a majority of 4E players but even on teh Enworld poll running recently on Vancian magic while statistically the number of people wanting Vancian appears to be the highest at 36.5 percent. That number is deceiving 9% hate Vancian and think it is old school, 24% think it should not be the baseline of the game but included at as option for those want to play it, and 25 % think it should be the baseline but with feats included to make it more flexible so so while 37% is for Vancian, 34% are against Vancian (the 9% and 24% who don't want it as the baseline) and 25% want it modiifed so actually the majority do not want Vancian as the baseline mechanic and I would say on this page most people who play here are PF fans. Like I said, people complained about Vancian long before 4E and if you watch the full release of 4E on sites Youtube when Chris Perkins stated Vancian magic would not be a part of 4E the response was overwhelming positive from the audience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fallstorm, post: 5901866, member: 55683"] Bedrock, Morrus, has not stated how long a spell description should be. Is it a few sentences plus some mechanics like he originally told me or is it the 3 paragraphs for a fireball that he agreed with you on? Would he be happy with a 3 paragraph hard cap on spells? I get he prefers prose to stat blocks. I understand that, but that is hardly specific. On the success of 3.5 vs. 4E and DnD Next….Well, WOTC (I believe specifically Andy Collin and Mike Mearls) when 3.5 was released talking about why it was needed and how certain spells like Haste had to be revamped because casting two spells in a round had a much bigger impact than a fighter getting an extra swing so that doesn’t sound too planned to me, but as you stated this you are not a WOTC insider and neither am I, so this is turning into a who killed Jimmy Hoffa argument, and as with all those arguments only the people in the know know and since we are not in the know the argument is fruitless. That being said, and to turn the discussion fruitful I am a long time gamer who is firmly in the 4E camp and you are a long time gamer firmly in the 1E/2E camp. Klaus gave an example of what he felt a spell description in DnD Next should be like. Myself as a 4E fans was satisfied with it. How about you? As a 1E/2E fan if you opened DnD Next and saw spells laid out as Klaus did his version of Sleep would it be enough for you to give the game a chance? Now, as far as Vancian magic, I will actually concede with you that a poll on WOTC website is biased because it contains a majority of 4E players but even on teh Enworld poll running recently on Vancian magic while statistically the number of people wanting Vancian appears to be the highest at 36.5 percent. That number is deceiving 9% hate Vancian and think it is old school, 24% think it should not be the baseline of the game but included at as option for those want to play it, and 25 % think it should be the baseline but with feats included to make it more flexible so so while 37% is for Vancian, 34% are against Vancian (the 9% and 24% who don't want it as the baseline) and 25% want it modiifed so actually the majority do not want Vancian as the baseline mechanic and I would say on this page most people who play here are PF fans. Like I said, people complained about Vancian long before 4E and if you watch the full release of 4E on sites Youtube when Chris Perkins stated Vancian magic would not be a part of 4E the response was overwhelming positive from the audience. [/QUOTE]
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