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<blockquote data-quote="QuietBrowser" data-source="post: 6900597" data-attributes="member: 6855057"><p>First things first, when I showcased my creations on 4chan, I received the following feedback as to flaws I need to generally address:</p><p></p><p>The racial feats seem to be near-universally overpowered. I was trying to emulate the example of Deep Magic for Svirfneblin, but I definitely want to discuss scaling them back or otherwise tweaking them to make them balanced.</p><p></p><p>Many of the races are either underpowered, bland, or both. Specific complaints that they could use more "fluffy" racial features and less reliance on free Proficiencies were also made. In case I haven't said it yet, I'm here because I really want to make these races fun, flavorful and balanced, so discussing how to tweak a race is <strong>always</strong> on the table, okay?</p><p></p><p>With that in mind, I present to you the complete index of my crafted races thus far, because this damn topic is going to be plenty huge and so having a way to more reasily find & reference stuff is always a good thing, right?</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900598&viewfull=1#post6900598" target="_blank">Mul</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900599&viewfull=1#post6900599" target="_blank">Aranea</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900604&viewfull=1#post6900604" target="_blank">Dwarven Subrace: Forgeborn</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900625&viewfull=1#post6900625" target="_blank">Gnoll</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900627&viewfull=1#post6900627" target="_blank">Lamia</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900630&viewfull=1#post6900630" target="_blank">Naga</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900636&viewfull=1#post6900636" target="_blank">Caliban</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900639&viewfull=1#post6900639" target="_blank">Kitsune</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900642&viewfull=1#post6900642" target="_blank">Diabolus</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900643&viewfull=1#post6900643" target="_blank">Shardmind</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900644&viewfull=1#post6900644" target="_blank">Vyrloka</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900646&viewfull=1#post6900646" target="_blank">Shadar-Kai</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900652&viewfull=1#post6900652" target="_blank">Bariaur</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900655&viewfull=1#post6900655" target="_blank">Kobold</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900656&viewfull=1#post6900656" target="_blank">Harpy</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900659&viewfull=1#post6900659" target="_blank">Lupin</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900660&viewfull=1#post6900660" target="_blank">Ratfolk</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900663&viewfull=1#post6900663" target="_blank">Catfolk</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900669&viewfull=1#post6900669" target="_blank">Thri-Kreen</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900672&viewfull=1#post6900672" target="_blank">Lizardfolk</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900679&viewfull=1#post6900679" target="_blank">Githyanki & Githzerai</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900681&viewfull=1#post6900681" target="_blank">Tanarukk</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900685&viewfull=1#post6900685" target="_blank">Kappa</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900689&viewfull=1#post6900689" target="_blank">Vanara</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900690&viewfull=1#post6900690" target="_blank">Vishkanya</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900691&viewfull=1#post6900691" target="_blank">Haglings</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Annis Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Green Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sea Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Night Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blood Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mute Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Storm Hagling</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Winter Hagling</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900697&viewfull=1#post6900697" target="_blank">Genasi Variants</a><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Grave</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pyre</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mist</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blood</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Storm</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Metal</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Wood</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ice</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Sun</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6906336&viewfull=1#post6906336" target="_blank">Bladeling</a></li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>Because I'll probably turn this post into an index when I can make links again, I figure I might as well say here that I've still got races I'm planning on working on, and I could really use folks' help to pull them off. Spellscales, Oni and the "Hengeyokai" of Tanuki, Bakeneko, Mujina, Itachi and Kawauso are particularly pressing on me for inspiration.</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pterran</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Centaur</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fey'ri</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rogue Modron</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hamadryad</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Satyr</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Huldra</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dust Genasi</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rain Genasi</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Magma Genasi</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Blight Genasi</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Smoke Genasi</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tanuki</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Bakeneko</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mujina</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Itachi</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Kawauso</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Oni</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Tengu</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spellscale</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietBrowser, post: 6900597, member: 6855057"] First things first, when I showcased my creations on 4chan, I received the following feedback as to flaws I need to generally address: The racial feats seem to be near-universally overpowered. I was trying to emulate the example of Deep Magic for Svirfneblin, but I definitely want to discuss scaling them back or otherwise tweaking them to make them balanced. Many of the races are either underpowered, bland, or both. Specific complaints that they could use more "fluffy" racial features and less reliance on free Proficiencies were also made. In case I haven't said it yet, I'm here because I really want to make these races fun, flavorful and balanced, so discussing how to tweak a race is [B]always[/B] on the table, okay? With that in mind, I present to you the complete index of my crafted races thus far, because this damn topic is going to be plenty huge and so having a way to more reasily find & reference stuff is always a good thing, right? [LIST] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900598&viewfull=1#post6900598"]Mul[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900599&viewfull=1#post6900599"]Aranea[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900604&viewfull=1#post6900604"]Dwarven Subrace: Forgeborn[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900625&viewfull=1#post6900625"]Gnoll[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900627&viewfull=1#post6900627"]Lamia[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900630&viewfull=1#post6900630"]Naga[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900636&viewfull=1#post6900636"]Caliban[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900639&viewfull=1#post6900639"]Kitsune[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900642&viewfull=1#post6900642"]Diabolus[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900643&viewfull=1#post6900643"]Shardmind[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900644&viewfull=1#post6900644"]Vyrloka[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900646&viewfull=1#post6900646"]Shadar-Kai[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900652&viewfull=1#post6900652"]Bariaur[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900655&viewfull=1#post6900655"]Kobold[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900656&viewfull=1#post6900656"]Harpy[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900659&viewfull=1#post6900659"]Lupin[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900660&viewfull=1#post6900660"]Ratfolk[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900663&viewfull=1#post6900663"]Catfolk[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900669&viewfull=1#post6900669"]Thri-Kreen[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900672&viewfull=1#post6900672"]Lizardfolk[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900679&viewfull=1#post6900679"]Githyanki & Githzerai[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900681&viewfull=1#post6900681"]Tanarukk[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900685&viewfull=1#post6900685"]Kappa[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900689&viewfull=1#post6900689"]Vanara[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900690&viewfull=1#post6900690"]Vishkanya[/URL] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900691&viewfull=1#post6900691"]Haglings[/URL] [LIST] [*]Annis Hagling [*]Green Hagling [*]Sea Hagling [*]Night Hagling [*]Blood Hagling [*]Mute Hagling [*]Storm Hagling [*]Winter Hagling [/LIST] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6900697&viewfull=1#post6900697"]Genasi Variants[/URL] [LIST] [*]Grave [*]Pyre [*]Mist [*]Blood [*]Storm [*]Metal [*]Wood [*]Ice [*]Sun [/LIST] [*][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?489755-QB-s-Monstrous-Races&p=6906336&viewfull=1#post6906336"]Bladeling[/URL] [/LIST] Because I'll probably turn this post into an index when I can make links again, I figure I might as well say here that I've still got races I'm planning on working on, and I could really use folks' help to pull them off. Spellscales, Oni and the "Hengeyokai" of Tanuki, Bakeneko, Mujina, Itachi and Kawauso are particularly pressing on me for inspiration. [LIST] [*]Pterran [*]Centaur [*]Fey'ri [*]Rogue Modron [*]Hamadryad [*]Satyr [*]Huldra [*]Dust Genasi [*]Rain Genasi [*]Magma Genasi [*]Blight Genasi [*]Smoke Genasi [*]Tanuki [*]Bakeneko [*]Mujina [*]Itachi [*]Kawauso [*]Oni [*]Tengu [*]Spellscale [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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