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<blockquote data-quote="Systole" data-source="post: 6149031" data-attributes="member: 93930"><p>The problem is simple: In PF, rogues are bad. They are widely considered to be the weakest class out of the entire lot. Basically, rogue damage depends on sneak attacks. Sneak attacks require flanking. Flanking requires maneuverability. Aaaaaand maneuverability is a pain in the a** and only gets worse at higher levels as tumble DCs to avoid AoOs quickly outpace your Acrobatics skill.</p><p></p><p>So you have a couple choices.</p><p>1. Suck it up and keep playing the rogue.</p><p>2. Multiclass into fighter. (Fighter is going to give you enough feats to make the rogue less bad. But it will still lag behind other PCs.)</p><p>3. Oops my character sheet fell into the paper shredder. Then my dog ate it. Then my dog spontaneously combusted. Can I make a new character?</p><p></p><p>The first PF character I made was a rogue, and I tried for a year and a half to turn her into something even remotely useful and couldn't do it. Given how frustrating I found the experience, I would just recommend option 3. If you want sneak attacks, vivisectionist alchemist has all of the damage, most of the skills, and then extracts and mutagens as a bonus. If you want a skill monkey, bard has all of the skills, slightly less damage, and then magic and performances as a bonus. If you want a flank buddy, summoner has way more of the damage and way more magic, but less skills.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Systole, post: 6149031, member: 93930"] The problem is simple: In PF, rogues are bad. They are widely considered to be the weakest class out of the entire lot. Basically, rogue damage depends on sneak attacks. Sneak attacks require flanking. Flanking requires maneuverability. Aaaaaand maneuverability is a pain in the a** and only gets worse at higher levels as tumble DCs to avoid AoOs quickly outpace your Acrobatics skill. So you have a couple choices. 1. Suck it up and keep playing the rogue. 2. Multiclass into fighter. (Fighter is going to give you enough feats to make the rogue less bad. But it will still lag behind other PCs.) 3. Oops my character sheet fell into the paper shredder. Then my dog ate it. Then my dog spontaneously combusted. Can I make a new character? The first PF character I made was a rogue, and I tried for a year and a half to turn her into something even remotely useful and couldn't do it. Given how frustrating I found the experience, I would just recommend option 3. If you want sneak attacks, vivisectionist alchemist has all of the damage, most of the skills, and then extracts and mutagens as a bonus. If you want a skill monkey, bard has all of the skills, slightly less damage, and then magic and performances as a bonus. If you want a flank buddy, summoner has way more of the damage and way more magic, but less skills. [/QUOTE]
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