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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 7205968" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>I'll have a go at a few...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why wouldn't she? She's completely alone, and would benefit from both the physical and mental assistance of another person, even if it is a robot. At the very least she needs David to translate the Engineer language, and probably needs his help using some of their technology. Also, David saved her life in Prometheus, and was created specifically to serve humans. While she may have some reasons to not completely trust him, she has no reason to assume David would kill her.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No idea. That's not the story the movie is telling.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Leading there, sure. Slowly. Not a direct path.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Engineers had many planets. Obviously some must be very high tech. Some, like LV-233 in Prometheus, had only a single site where a ship could be found. Others, like Earth, had no technology left behind at all; just biology. Either the planet David found is a planet with life forms but no advanced tech, or there is a cache of tech hidden somewhere on the planet that David couldn't find. Either explanation is completely consistent with what we've seen of the Engineers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's still open to go either way. David created the eggs, eggs make facehuggers, facehuggers make xenomorphs. It's possible David would create life that couldn't reproduce without him, but also possible he planned the next phase. It's equally possible that David doesn't know for sure what will happen next and the hive/queen phase is an unexpected mutation. Remember, it's all an experiment to him.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You hate all the Aliens sequels and want more of what Lucas did to Star Wars? Words can't even describe my reaction. No, just no.</p><p></p><p>Also, to answer some of the earlier questions:</p><p></p><p></p><p>The suit was outside of some interference that was near the ship. It was put in to explain why the signal wasn't picked up earlier. Really easy to explain and never relied on again simply because it wasn't significant.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There may have been another landing craft in the colony ship, just not one that was remote control-able like on the Sulaco. Given that it's years earlier and not a military ship, I find this easy to accept. I also didn't see any architecture problems like you did. Probably won't get a chance to review until the DVD comes out.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why do you assume they had the ability to map the surface in such detail, or that it would look that way from above? The stone temple/city area we saw actually had a number of structures jutting up around it, so the open meadow/lake they landed in would probably look like the best landing area from most scanning techniques.</p><p></p><p></p><p>David was a prototype. A very successful one, that clearly took a ton of effort to design. Using the same mold is an obvious choice; you would have to work harder to explain why they should change it.</p><p></p><p>Alien Covenant was not a perfect movie. No movie is, and this wasn't the best of the series by far. But I think a lot of folks are asking way to much out of it and don't give it the credit it's due. A lot of these complaints are nitpicking a lot of minor issues that don't come close to some of the errors in the "good" films of the series. Ditto for Prometheus.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 7205968, member: 7808"] I'll have a go at a few... Why wouldn't she? She's completely alone, and would benefit from both the physical and mental assistance of another person, even if it is a robot. At the very least she needs David to translate the Engineer language, and probably needs his help using some of their technology. Also, David saved her life in Prometheus, and was created specifically to serve humans. While she may have some reasons to not completely trust him, she has no reason to assume David would kill her. No idea. That's not the story the movie is telling. Leading there, sure. Slowly. Not a direct path. The Engineers had many planets. Obviously some must be very high tech. Some, like LV-233 in Prometheus, had only a single site where a ship could be found. Others, like Earth, had no technology left behind at all; just biology. Either the planet David found is a planet with life forms but no advanced tech, or there is a cache of tech hidden somewhere on the planet that David couldn't find. Either explanation is completely consistent with what we've seen of the Engineers. It's still open to go either way. David created the eggs, eggs make facehuggers, facehuggers make xenomorphs. It's possible David would create life that couldn't reproduce without him, but also possible he planned the next phase. It's equally possible that David doesn't know for sure what will happen next and the hive/queen phase is an unexpected mutation. Remember, it's all an experiment to him. You hate all the Aliens sequels and want more of what Lucas did to Star Wars? Words can't even describe my reaction. No, just no. Also, to answer some of the earlier questions: The suit was outside of some interference that was near the ship. It was put in to explain why the signal wasn't picked up earlier. Really easy to explain and never relied on again simply because it wasn't significant. There may have been another landing craft in the colony ship, just not one that was remote control-able like on the Sulaco. Given that it's years earlier and not a military ship, I find this easy to accept. I also didn't see any architecture problems like you did. Probably won't get a chance to review until the DVD comes out. Why do you assume they had the ability to map the surface in such detail, or that it would look that way from above? The stone temple/city area we saw actually had a number of structures jutting up around it, so the open meadow/lake they landed in would probably look like the best landing area from most scanning techniques. David was a prototype. A very successful one, that clearly took a ton of effort to design. Using the same mold is an obvious choice; you would have to work harder to explain why they should change it. Alien Covenant was not a perfect movie. No movie is, and this wasn't the best of the series by far. But I think a lot of folks are asking way to much out of it and don't give it the credit it's due. A lot of these complaints are nitpicking a lot of minor issues that don't come close to some of the errors in the "good" films of the series. Ditto for Prometheus. [/QUOTE]
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