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<blockquote data-quote="Nagol" data-source="post: 7149492" data-attributes="member: 23935"><p>And I wrote as much. "However, it is the responsibility of outliers in any group to take remedial action <strong>if the group rejects the appeal.</strong>" I'm unsure how to be more plain.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I've set up a situation where one person is affected by/affecting a group and attempts to reach compromise have failed. Without compromise there are two choices for the disaffected: change or leave. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What part of "... I'm addressing the pathological case." left you in doubt?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because at no point is it incumbent on the group to honour choices they didn't have a hand in -- choosing Paladin as a class, for example. Should the group honour it? Yes! Must the group honour it? No! </p><p></p><p>In most group environments, one might expect that qualms about adding a character with specific and understood principles would be raised early, but perhaps the group is used to winking at those requirements? Even if the group expects the requirements to be enforced and intends to continue their murder-hobo ways, they have no obligation to alter their behaviour to protect you from your choices. It would be appropriate if the group gave you a warning prior to bringing that character in that it could be a problem, but failing to do so doesn't put them in the wrong. When faced with the stark choice disappoint your mates or disappoint your deity, what do you do? What consequences flow from that decision? That's one of the risks the player assumes by playing a character with unbending principles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nagol, post: 7149492, member: 23935"] And I wrote as much. "However, it is the responsibility of outliers in any group to take remedial action [B]if the group rejects the appeal.[/B]" I'm unsure how to be more plain. No, I've set up a situation where one person is affected by/affecting a group and attempts to reach compromise have failed. Without compromise there are two choices for the disaffected: change or leave. What part of "... I'm addressing the pathological case." left you in doubt? Because at no point is it incumbent on the group to honour choices they didn't have a hand in -- choosing Paladin as a class, for example. Should the group honour it? Yes! Must the group honour it? No! In most group environments, one might expect that qualms about adding a character with specific and understood principles would be raised early, but perhaps the group is used to winking at those requirements? Even if the group expects the requirements to be enforced and intends to continue their murder-hobo ways, they have no obligation to alter their behaviour to protect you from your choices. It would be appropriate if the group gave you a warning prior to bringing that character in that it could be a problem, but failing to do so doesn't put them in the wrong. When faced with the stark choice disappoint your mates or disappoint your deity, what do you do? What consequences flow from that decision? That's one of the risks the player assumes by playing a character with unbending principles. [/QUOTE]
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