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[rant] Fighting intellectual theft on WOTC
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<blockquote data-quote="Heretic Apostate" data-source="post: 1371932" data-attributes="member: 696"><p>Yup, I don't want to leave a trail of breadcrumbs back to EN World for angry posters to follow. Which is also why I posted this message to Meta, since it's a rare individual who posts to or even reads Meta. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>I can't seem to bring up the WOTC End User License Agreement (EULA) on svgames.com, so I can't use that for a counter-argument.</p><p> </p><p>But I <em>do</em> remember the whole snafu over the Conversion Library here on EN World, where people were basically copied the entire supplement and then tacked on their conversion (thus removing the need to actually buy the ESD). I don't think it's permitted to do anything that makes it unnecessary to purchase the ESD, nor do I think it's permitted to alter the ESD (for instance, conversions aren't allowed to alter the number of creatures in an encounter to balance it, or to substitute other creatures, and then release it for general consumption; within your own RPG group, sure, but not available to the general public).</p><p> </p><p>As for the guy owning the supplements, how can he prove it? On usenet newsgroups, there's always someone coming around, asking for CD keys because "I own the game, but I lost the CD case; can someone give me their CD key?" Sure, maybe they're legit. And maybe they're a pirate trying to get a valid CD key...</p><p> </p><p>I tried a couple of the ESDs, and I can copy text using the Select Text tool.</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left">Sure, you've got to edit it some. But the guy is <em>saying</em> he wants to copy excerpts for his players. If that's all he wants to do, he can simply copy the few paragraphs into Notepad, correct the spelling (I noticed, for instance, that the adventures from Dark Sun tend to have a LOT of spelling errors; not sure if that was from the actual product, or a failure of the OCR, but it needs some editing, definitely), and so forth.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: left">Basically, the guy is asking for the <em>entire</em> document in a text file. The only electronic versions of the files are in PDF format, scanned in. He wants someone to do all the work of editing the file, then release it to someone from the general public, who (based only on his say-so) purportedly owns the product already.</p><p></p><p style="text-align: left">He doesn't want to spend the money to get the actual product, and he doesn't want to print out the few pages he wants, and he doesn't want to do the work of copying-and-editing...</p><p></p><p style="text-align: left">I frankly don't trust him...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Heretic Apostate, post: 1371932, member: 696"] Yup, I don't want to leave a trail of breadcrumbs back to EN World for angry posters to follow. Which is also why I posted this message to Meta, since it's a rare individual who posts to or even reads Meta. :D I can't seem to bring up the WOTC End User License Agreement (EULA) on svgames.com, so I can't use that for a counter-argument. But I [i]do[/i] remember the whole snafu over the Conversion Library here on EN World, where people were basically copied the entire supplement and then tacked on their conversion (thus removing the need to actually buy the ESD). I don't think it's permitted to do anything that makes it unnecessary to purchase the ESD, nor do I think it's permitted to alter the ESD (for instance, conversions aren't allowed to alter the number of creatures in an encounter to balance it, or to substitute other creatures, and then release it for general consumption; within your own RPG group, sure, but not available to the general public). As for the guy owning the supplements, how can he prove it? On usenet newsgroups, there's always someone coming around, asking for CD keys because "I own the game, but I lost the CD case; can someone give me their CD key?" Sure, maybe they're legit. And maybe they're a pirate trying to get a valid CD key... I tried a couple of the ESDs, and I can copy text using the Select Text tool. [font=Times New Roman][size=1][left][/left] [left][/left][font=Times New Roman][size=2][left][/left] [/size][/font][/size][/font] [left]Sure, you've got to edit it some. But the guy is [i]saying[/i] he wants to copy excerpts for his players. If that's all he wants to do, he can simply copy the few paragraphs into Notepad, correct the spelling (I noticed, for instance, that the adventures from Dark Sun tend to have a LOT of spelling errors; not sure if that was from the actual product, or a failure of the OCR, but it needs some editing, definitely), and so forth.[/left] [left]Basically, the guy is asking for the [i]entire[/i] document in a text file. The only electronic versions of the files are in PDF format, scanned in. He wants someone to do all the work of editing the file, then release it to someone from the general public, who (based only on his say-so) purportedly owns the product already.[/left] [left]He doesn't want to spend the money to get the actual product, and he doesn't want to print out the few pages he wants, and he doesn't want to do the work of copying-and-editing...[/left] [left]I frankly don't trust him...[/left] [/QUOTE]
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