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[Rant] The Hobbit Movies are an Abomination
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<blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 6691237"><p>Perhaps they are a souless money grab, but comparing them to Eps 1-3 is going too far, IMO. Now, I am not a die-hard fan of Tolkien (I actually enjoy more swords and sorcery pulp action) but I have been around the books a number of times. The movies certainly took an "action movie" approach to slower paced childrens book (and perhaps lost its soul), but its not the abomination that is Eps1-3 for Star Wars. </p><p></p><p>If taken on their own (ie, ignore the book), the movies were OK. I think if they would have moved all the Necromancer stuff to the 3rd movie that would have worked much better. They could have focused a bit more on the Hobbit story that most people "know" in the first two. Then all the other stuff "say, where was Gandalf, and what is the consequence of all this loot?" would have flowed better. The Necromancer/5 Armies story would have blended very nicely if paced right.</p><p></p><p>While they did shove a few elves in there that were not in the story, at least it was not kids in pod racers /Jar Jar Binks/Space Jesus. You could very well infer that Legolas would have been part of that story (he was from that Elven kingdom, right? My lack of Tolkien cred here) so while its annoying from a canonical perspective it has a fun connection to LoTR given the immortality of elves. The Necromancer stuff was in the story but not detailed. They had a nice build up, but it sorta fell flat as it went in the 3rd movie (again, I think if it would have been self contained in 3 it would have flowed better).</p><p></p><p>SW Eps1-3 are just BAD. I cringe to watch them. There just seems to be something cringe-worthy in about every scene. I have probably seen more of these movies that I should have based on their value due to the very entertaining Red Letter Media reviews of them. Even with the Machete viewing option, I really wonder if I will ever show my kids any of Eps 1-3. Its in the Ewok Christmas special bucket - its out there, but it does not exist. Now the Clone Wars animated series on the other hand - excellent. It will likely fill in the Eps1-3 hole.</p><p></p><p>The Hobbit - I can watch them. The first two plus the first 10 minutes of the 3rd (but maybe minus the gold dwarf thing) are decent enough. They are below the LoTR but maybe on par with Jedi - pretty good, but still weak in places. They are not banned from viewing. But I would have my kids read the book first for sure.</p><p></p><p>You can grab some of my money if you at least entertain me. Hobbit has some entertainment value. SW Eps 1-3 is just garbage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="amerigoV, post: 6691237"] Perhaps they are a souless money grab, but comparing them to Eps 1-3 is going too far, IMO. Now, I am not a die-hard fan of Tolkien (I actually enjoy more swords and sorcery pulp action) but I have been around the books a number of times. The movies certainly took an "action movie" approach to slower paced childrens book (and perhaps lost its soul), but its not the abomination that is Eps1-3 for Star Wars. If taken on their own (ie, ignore the book), the movies were OK. I think if they would have moved all the Necromancer stuff to the 3rd movie that would have worked much better. They could have focused a bit more on the Hobbit story that most people "know" in the first two. Then all the other stuff "say, where was Gandalf, and what is the consequence of all this loot?" would have flowed better. The Necromancer/5 Armies story would have blended very nicely if paced right. While they did shove a few elves in there that were not in the story, at least it was not kids in pod racers /Jar Jar Binks/Space Jesus. You could very well infer that Legolas would have been part of that story (he was from that Elven kingdom, right? My lack of Tolkien cred here) so while its annoying from a canonical perspective it has a fun connection to LoTR given the immortality of elves. The Necromancer stuff was in the story but not detailed. They had a nice build up, but it sorta fell flat as it went in the 3rd movie (again, I think if it would have been self contained in 3 it would have flowed better). SW Eps1-3 are just BAD. I cringe to watch them. There just seems to be something cringe-worthy in about every scene. I have probably seen more of these movies that I should have based on their value due to the very entertaining Red Letter Media reviews of them. Even with the Machete viewing option, I really wonder if I will ever show my kids any of Eps 1-3. Its in the Ewok Christmas special bucket - its out there, but it does not exist. Now the Clone Wars animated series on the other hand - excellent. It will likely fill in the Eps1-3 hole. The Hobbit - I can watch them. The first two plus the first 10 minutes of the 3rd (but maybe minus the gold dwarf thing) are decent enough. They are below the LoTR but maybe on par with Jedi - pretty good, but still weak in places. They are not banned from viewing. But I would have my kids read the book first for sure. You can grab some of my money if you at least entertain me. Hobbit has some entertainment value. SW Eps 1-3 is just garbage. [/QUOTE]
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