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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5885755" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>I gather you don't know what this term means and simply decided "I know you are..." was a good reply.</p><p></p><p>So you don't see any difference in that scene and scenes that happen over and over? Because that one very specific scene gets called out all the time as a true classic. </p><p></p><p>I AGREE that heroes fight through wounds all the time and that is a cliche. And HP in EVERY edition of D&D cover that just great.</p><p></p><p>But that scene was hailed as a justification not for HP and fighting on, but specifically for surges.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[qyote]All 4e did was remove the need for the Cleric to be the cut-man in the corner, every, single, time.</p></blockquote><p>This isn't even REMOTELY correct.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I'll certainly acknowledge that it may very well be true for your personal gaming experience. </p><p></p><p>But that vast and fundamental changes that surges impose upon the play experience have been thoroughly discussed in numerous threads. Deciding those issues don't exist by fiat of your own blanket declaration is less than compelling as an argument.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5885755, member: 957"] I gather you don't know what this term means and simply decided "I know you are..." was a good reply. So you don't see any difference in that scene and scenes that happen over and over? Because that one very specific scene gets called out all the time as a true classic. I AGREE that heroes fight through wounds all the time and that is a cliche. And HP in EVERY edition of D&D cover that just great. But that scene was hailed as a justification not for HP and fighting on, but specifically for surges. [qyote]All 4e did was remove the need for the Cleric to be the cut-man in the corner, every, single, time.[/quote] This isn't even REMOTELY correct. I mean, I'll certainly acknowledge that it may very well be true for your personal gaming experience. But that vast and fundamental changes that surges impose upon the play experience have been thoroughly discussed in numerous threads. Deciding those issues don't exist by fiat of your own blanket declaration is less than compelling as an argument. [/QUOTE]
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